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i don't remember any other heather-dramas, really. a lot of threads about her, a lot of cyber-yelling, but no real stories to tell. am i forgetting something?

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You know, I don't think I can remember any Heather-drama myself. But then again, I have a shoddy memory.

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Because most of the drama never came directly from her.

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And she also had her knights in shining armor: Peter_Torque and to a lesser extent, Leaky.

Who will it be now that these two are on the wrong side?

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quote:
Originally posted by greenleakynipples
Happy New Year.


Nips, its been a shite week for me and I just wanna give you 2 whole humor points for brightening my life.

Thank you.

Kayla - I missed all the commotion leading up to this and I thank you for the pix of heather, she is a fine looking girl.

Heather - You said in one of your responses in this thread that you posted the pictures to get validation from people who dont have to. Hmmm. Either you're extremely insecure or you're an attention seeker.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but you're quite a hot looking woman.
But dont take my word for it look in the mirror or signup for a mens mag and have yourself splashed all over the glossys. The fact is you would have to be stupid to believe you're not good looking. imo you're not that stupid, which leads me to think you are attention seeking or you're an exhibitionist, or both.

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Nips, its been a shite week for me and I just wanna give you 2 whole humor points for brightening my life.

Thank you.



Thanks D. I think I got a bit more amusement out of making those than most of the people around here got out of viewing them. Here's to hoping your next week is a considerable improvement.

Leaky.

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quote:
Originally posted by Buddha's Penis!
i don't remember any other heather-dramas, really. a lot of threads about her, a lot of cyber-yelling, but no real stories to tell. am i forgetting something?


They tend to get blurry after a while. Same plot, Heather plays the goodhearted naive victim and there is a new guest star (of either sex) every episode to play the vile betrayer. These heartwrenching melodramas seem to run about once a month and bounce around various forums. The Asylum gets an episode about every three months or so.
I believe Morgana was the villain in the last episode here.
They do give Heather the opportunity to have someone post some of the pics of her genitalia without her having to come up with some pretense for doing it herself.
She used to love throwing up (you can take that a variety of ways) threads of pics of herself (Stile was the happy host in the old days), but I think her blatent narcissism caused such a backlash that she needed to develop the situation soap operas to distract from her "Look at ME and tell me I'm pretty!!!" style of posting.

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Heheh....you guys can have her.

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wonderaz you are pretty even if your husband doesn't tell you enough.

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For the latecomers that missed Heather's original post, here it is, with my edits in place. Doesn't make a lot of sense that way, but better than nothing ....



Hey everyone. I thought y'all might take some interest in this, well those of you who like gossip anyway.

I'm sure most of you know Peter_Torque - he's a member here.

I'm CURIOUS if any of you (ladies) here have ever received requests from him for special pictures of yourselves, and also if he's ever asked anyone for pictures of me... (I gave up the cam thing about 6 mos ago [tragic story] and have since gotten a few friendly forums to prohibit the use of my pictures).

For those of you who want to know WHY I'm seeking this information, read ahead, it's a long story, but I'll gladly share it per the chance that ONE person might learn a thing or two about who to trust and who not to.

It all started here, actually, at the Asylum, and a lot of it carried on here in the Private Messaging domain too, but for the most part it involved two Mods at docweasel.com forums. I invited Peter_Torque there in July to share the job of moderating an aread of DWF called The Love Shack. My name there is Aphrodite, and his is Eros. I've underlined for you the most pertinent part of this whole thing, it's at the bottom, so if you're going to read anything read that, as it is the REASON I'm posting this here.

And now the saga begins...

First of all, a little background:

I met Peter_Torque (AKA Eros) at Asylum Forums. I thought him to be an excellent poster, with many new ideas and points of view, but most of all I found his posts entertaining, especially those of a sexual nature. We bacame friends and chatted often via PM. At times he would say things that kind of creeped me out, as you will see later, but overall I trusted him and gave him the benefit of the doubt that he was another internet sicko. I hate being unnecessarily untrusting, and would rather be hurt from being too trusting than hurt an innocent person by refusing to trust them and basing my dislike of them on suspicions.

/me bangs palm on forehead *Stupid Stupid Stupid*

6 moths ago he sent me this PM at Asylum



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That message really upset me, especially because it was around the time that I was beginning to have picture problems, but it would have anyway, because all personal messages requesting special favors upset me. I refused and explained my discomfort. He replied to my refusal:

EDIT: PM removed

My respect for him was reinforced, and my trust grew as time passed and he prooved to have truly dropped the idea. This is when I invited him to mod the Love Shack, and I was comforted by the fact that my pictures would not be posted
here so I didn't have to worry about him stumbling across them and getting that creepy satisfaction he wanted.

I saw that he was respecting my feelings, and he kept to his promise of never bringing the pictures up again, except for when someone else would post them and then he would make a point of mentioning to me that he was not looking at them
and not downloading them because he knew it made me uncomfortable. That was a little weird. But I ignorantly believed him, because it was easier to do that than get all upset and feel all akward being his friend. My intuition kept telling me otherwise, even a NORMAL guy wouldn't go to the trouble of avoiding a girls pictures, especially if he knew she would never be the wiser.

I let the entire thing go, and forgot about it, and focused on the ongoing influx of DWF drama.

OK - A few days ago he sends me this PM

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I was royally pissed, and I also questioned why he didn't want me to tell anyone that I knew. So I forwarded it all to Doc right away.

Doc replied:

EDIT: PM removed


Now I'm really fuming. I've been such a dumbass. I've been totally betrayed by someone who I really trusted and respected. So I confront Eros with what I've found out about him, and here is what he had to say:


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After that he sent me a few "FWDs" that he edited to say things that the sender didn't.

Basically he's denying that he ever asked BlackXIII for my pussy shots.

OK, I'm willing to consider that, but first I want to do some detective work of my own.

I get ahold of BlackXIII and he forwards me this PM:

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So I forward it straight to Eros. I'm madder than Hannibal...

He responds with this PM him:

EDIT: PM removed

Ramblings of a guilty, perverted soul...

Now I get to play Sherlock. I start INDEPENDANTLY PMing various male members of DWF that were around in June, July & August. None of them know if I'm asking other people, they're all under the impression that I'm asking them only.

You wouldn't believe my responses!

Here they are:

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Now that I had collected my evidence, I forwarded the convictions to Eros, just to see what more he had to say for himself.

I know this is long... BUT KEEP ON READING This is the best part!!!

First a guilt trip:

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Next a few rebuttals


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Now for the grand finale:


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There is one last thing that I would like to clear up. I would never ever ever ever EVER do private or special pics like that for ANYBODY, and the fact that Eros used a complete LIE about having some of me, doing sex acts, as bribe material for
getting pictures of me, is absolutely the most infuriating thing I have heard from any person in my entire life. I'm sure if he had them, he would have certainly posted them by now as an act of revenge... Yes, that's a challenge Eros, show our dear users what you've got! I fucking DARE you!

I would like to invite ALL of you to contribute your thoughts and opinions on this situation. If Eros/Peter_Torque has asked you for pictures and you've got the evidence, please post it. ( Chica I'm interested in the PM you got from him )

A little bird also told me that he's been running around PMing people with a different version of the story in a desperate attempt ot save his ass... if you got one, post it here!!!

I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt 6 people would conspire something like that, against anyone. Who would waste their time? I'm certain you've all got much better things to do than plot to sever my friendship with Eros, by framing him. I know if someone had gone to that trouble, I wouldn't have found out in the manner I did. Somebody would have just PMed me out of the blue saying, "HEY Eros is a perv, here's why!" Eros isn't stupid. He took a big risk by PMing people for my pictures. He knew if he got caught, that would be the end of it. So he did it in the last place I'd expect him to do it, and he did it in a succinct manner that was very un-Eros so that he could easily deny it and cry "framed".

No one likes to be called a liar - NO ONE, liars thenselves don't even like to be called liars. I decided last night that I know something else about Eros/Peter. If he had been truly telling the truth, he would have stayed here and fought to the death for himself, instead, he spews a bunch of guilt bullshit, curls his tail down between his legs, and runs away.

I've done a little more investigating, and BlackXIII was incredible enough to give me his password so I could log in as him and snoop through his messenger, and see for myself what was said by whom and what wasn't.

Here is what I saw in his inbox: (Sorry dial ups! )

http://students.washington.edu/prin...lack13Inbox.jpg



I opened the messages from Eros. Here is what he sent to black on August 24:

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My biggest fear in the entire world is being wrong. I have a tender heart, and I can't bear to hurt or accuse a person erroneously. I have honestly lost sleep and intestinal matter over this because I so badly wanted to believe that a friend I respected and trusted so much would not betray me in such a way and would not lie to me about it. I also have a very forgiving heart, and if he had confessed the truth from the beginning, over time I would have accepted him back into my life.

Thanks to all of you who have been good enough to help me here. I know at times I have behaved in ways that have upset a lot of you and I just want you to know that I went into this expecting nothing, and for what you have given me I will be forever grateful.

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quote:
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wonderaz you are pretty even if your husband doesn't tell you enough.


Awwww *blush, giggle giggle, blush*

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For the latecomers that missed Heather's original post, here it is, with my edits in place. Doesn't make a lot of sense that way, but better than nothing ....




It didn't make much sense without the editing. We were only seeing half the PMs.

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i remember all that rather well, i've always been a fairly loud detractor actually, but i don't see those incidences in the same way i see this one. she doesn't usually start shit, as i see it, i don't think she expects the shit she catches. as i said, it's not exactly interesting but i do feel bad for her. this doesn't seem like an issue of heather doing stupid shit, she says she trusted someone and was let down. even if one was to think it was a result of her own stupidity, it's still a shame (providing it's all true, something i suppose i'm not able to tell for certain as i only saw one side).
i mean, inkygate was similar, no? trusted someone, turned out badly. emails were posted that time around, but to differentiate between email and PMs seems piddly to me. the main difference to me is that that the rw debacle was a high-profile thing, and this is petty shittiness that only affects two people.

again, provided it's true etc.

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quote:
Originally posted by Buddha's Penis!
i mean, inkygate was similar, no? trusted someone, turned out badly. emails were posted that time around, but to differentiate between email and PMs seems piddly to me. the main difference to me is that that the rw debacle was a high-profile thing, and this is petty shittiness that only affects two people.




That's a pretty good point, i didn't even think about that. It's funny how most people, including myself, seemed to have accepted inky's side of the story without question, yet heathers' is met with such skepticism. Although i have to say both RW and heather chose actions that didn't help them in the situations but...well anyway.

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quote:
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... It's funny how most people, including myself, seemed to have accepted inky's side of the story without question...

It didn't hurt that others piped up with similar stories, and the dead fiance appeared as well.

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Inky didn't lie.
Her story wasn't a repeat of similar stories from her, in fact there were a couple of others that stepped up and said they had been put in similar situations by RW.
All Peter did was ask for pictures that she had already put out on the net.
Big difference.

I'm beginning to question whether you really are an Asian.
I demand a DNA test.

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quote:
Originally posted by Buddha's Penis!
i mean, inkygate was similar, no? trusted someone, turned out badly. emails were posted that time around, but to differentiate between email and PMs seems piddly to me. the main difference to me is that that the rw debacle was a high-profile thing, and this is petty shittiness that only affects two people.


i never posted any pm's, e-mails or anything of the sort.

and i think what happened to me was very different.

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i just said email was posted, and i'm pretty sure some were. i don't remember by who. i'm not trying to challenge anybody, i'm just saying that on the surface both were threads devoted to outing a well-known member of our little communities as a creep. i don't have any reason as far as i know to mistrust heather, and the original evidence seemed conclusive (though obviously it could have been faked), i just don't really care about the situation in general.
inky, is this not supposedly a case of misplaced trust on the internet? that's what is similar, besides the publicity.

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Her story wasn't a repeat of similar stories from her, in fact there were a couple of others that stepped up and said they had been put in similar situations by RW.
All Peter did was ask for pictures that she had already put out on the net.
Big difference.

I understand there's a difference, i was merely stating that BP made a good point. I do agree that what Peter allegedly did was not as jeopardizing to heather as RW's leaving inky without a residence for a while, and etc. But the situations are still similar, if you ask me.

I'm beginning to question whether you really are an Asian.
I demand a DNA test.

Ok so i have caffeine saying "asian" to me every chance he gets, and you wondering if i am asian....there surely is some joke going on, and you all have forgotten to include me in it. I cannot laugh until i understand, so i demand an explaination now!

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I cannot speak for Caff without getting a lobotomy first.

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uh, so PT is a bad guy because he was trying to find a pic of PH's snatch, something she hasn't been shy about sharing with strangers? i don't get it, what the fuck is your problem PH? you practically shove the pics down our throats for years then youre oh so offended when a 'friend' wants to see them. fuckin moron. please dont breed.

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she was upset because he lied, apparently. i don't think the snatch pictures themselves had much to do with it.

for the sake of the truth i post this. i feel compelled to correct things.

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And don't stop doing it BP!

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Kayla lied about thinking I was pretty.
Should I start a thread?

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yes, please.

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