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Take what? Fries without mayo?

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Good luck. What kind of government are you going to set up?


Well hopefully the state of AK wont put the responsibility on me to birth new government.
But if they did, I would definitely be Queen. Sarah Palin would be my first assistant because she's already done such a wonderful job as governor. Then I would boot all the big oil companies out, and my new government would take complete control of the oil fields. I would immediately legalize marijuana, of course, and even require certain people to smoke it. I would stomp the IM program, and the Pebble Mine Project. Then I will meet with the U.S. government and offer to sell them oil, gold, natural gas, coal, king salmon, king crab, buffalo, moose, and caribou. I would also fix all of the "federally funded" roads. I would legalize gay marriage (the ratio of men to women up here is just unfair), and I would institute a national polygamy based religion. According to the math, if there are 7 men to every woman, then I should be allowed to have at least 5 husbands, allowing for the homosexuals. Finally, I would build a mile tall wall around the entire state to keep the riff raff out. Oh, and I would declare war on Canada.

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Masochist. As if dealing with one husband isn't trouble enough?

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I would probably have to hire someone to actually deal with them.

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I guess that's why you're legalizing the grass.

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bingo

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Canada is going to own your ass.






Intellectually.

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Nah, their quarters wont even work in our vending machines.

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Bumping this increasingly relevant question with an aisle-crossing, tear-jerking, knuckle-biting update on the problems of our freedom-loving putty.

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Truth Has Fallen and Taken Liberty With It

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

There was a time when the pen was mightier than the sword. That was a time when people believed in truth and regarded truth as an independent power and not as an auxiliary for government, class, race, ideological, personal, or financial interest.

Today, Americans are ruled by propaganda. Americans have little regard for truth, little access to it, and little ability to recognize it.

Truth is an unwelcome entity. It is disturbing. It is off limits. Those who speak it run the risk of being branded "anti-American," "anti-semite" or "conspiracy theorist."

Truth is an inconvenience for government and for the interest groups whose campaign contributions control government.

Truth is an inconvenience for prosecutors who want convictions, not the discovery of innocence or guilt.

Truth is inconvenient for ideologues.

Today, many whose goal once was the discovery of truth are now paid handsomely to hide it. "Free market economists" are paid to sell offshoring to the American people. High-productivity, high value-added American jobs are denigrated as dirty, old industrial jobs. Relicts from long ago, we are best shed of them. Their place has been taken by "the New Economy," a mythical economy that allegedly consists of high-tech white collar jobs in which Americans innovate and finance activities that occur offshore. All Americans need in order to participate in this "new economy" are finance degrees from Ivy League universities, and then they will work on Wall Street at million dollar jobs.

Economists who were once respectable took money to contribute to this myth of "the New Economy."

And not only economists sell their souls for filthy lucre. Recently we have had reports of medical doctors who, for money, have published in peer-reviewed journals concocted "studies" that hype this or that new medicine produced by pharmaceutical companies that paid for the "studies."

The Council of Europe is investigating the drug companies' role in hyping a false swine flu pandemic in order to gain billions of dollars in sales of the vaccine.

The media helped the US military hype its recent Marja offensive in Afghanistan, describing Marja as a city of 80,000 under Taliban control. It turns out that Marja is not urban but a collection of village farms.

And there is the global warming scandal, in which NGOs. the UN, and the nuclear industry colluded in concocting a doomsday scenario in order to create profit in pollution.

Wherever one looks, truth has fallen to money.

Wherever money is insufficient to bury the truth, ignorance, propaganda, and short memories finish the job.

I remember when, following CIA director William Colby's testimony before the Church Committee in the mid-1970s, presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan issued executive orders preventing the CIA and U.S. black-op groups from assassinating foreign leaders. In 2010 the US Congress was told by Dennis Blair, head of national intelligence, that the US now assassinates its own citizens in addition to foreign leaders.

When Blair told the House Intelligence Committee that US citizens no longer needed to be arrested, charged, tried, and convicted of a capital crime, just murdered on suspicion alone of being a "threat," he wasn't impeached. No investigation pursued. Nothing happened. There was no Church Committee. In the mid-1970s the CIA got into trouble for plots to kill Castro. Today it is American citizens who are on the hit list. Whatever objections there might be don't carry any weight. No one in government is in any trouble over the assassination of U.S. citizens by the U.S. government.

As an economist, I am astonished that the American economics profession has no awareness whatsoever that the U.S. economy has been destroyed by the offshoring of U.S. GDP to overseas countries. U.S. corporations, in pursuit of absolute advantage or lowest labor costs and maximum CEO "performance bonuses," have moved the production of goods and services marketed to Americans to China, India, and elsewhere abroad. When I read economists describe offshoring as free trade based on comparative advantage, I realize that there is no intelligence or integrity in the American economics profession.

Intelligence and integrity have been purchased by money. The transnational or global U.S. corporations pay multi-million dollar compensation packages to top managers, who achieve these "performance awards" by replacing U.S. labor with foreign labor. While Washington worries about "the Muslim threat," Wall Street, U.S. corporations and "free market" shills destroy the U.S. economy and the prospects of tens of millions of Americans.

Americans, or most of them, have proved to be putty in the hands of the police state.

Americans have bought into the government's claim that security requires the suspension of civil liberties and accountable government. Astonishingly, Americans, or most of them, believe that civil liberties, such as habeas corpus and due process, protect "terrorists," and not themselves. Many also believe that the Constitution is a tired old document that prevents government from exercising the kind of police state powers necessary to keep Americans safe and free.

Most Americans are unlikely to hear from anyone who would tell them any different.

I was associate editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal. I was Business Week's first outside columnist, a position I held for 15 years. I was columnist for a decade for Scripps Howard News Service, carried in 300 newspapers. I was a columnist for the Washington Times and for newspapers in France and Italy and for a magazine in Germany. I was a contributor to the New York Times and a regular feature in the Los Angeles Times. Today I cannot publish in, or appear on, the American "mainstream media."

For the last six years I have been banned from the "mainstream media." My last column in the New York Times appeared in January, 2004, coauthored with Democratic U.S. Senator Charles Schumer representing New York. We addressed the offshoring of U.S. jobs. Our op-ed article produced a conference at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. and live coverage by C-Span. A debate was launched. No such thing could happen today.

For years, I was a mainstay at the Washington Times, producing credibility for the Moony newspaper as a Business Week columnist, former Wall Street Journal editor, and former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. But when I began criticizing Bush's wars of aggression, the order came down to Mary Lou Forbes to cancel my column.

The American corporate media does not serve the truth. It serves the government and the interest groups that empower the government.

America's fate was sealed when the public and the anti-war movement bought the government's 9/11 conspiracy theory. The government's account of 9/11 is contradicted by much evidence. Nevertheless, this defining event of our time, which has launched the US on interminable wars of aggression and a domestic police state, is a taboo topic for investigation in the media. It is pointless to complain of war and a police state when one accepts the premise upon which they are based.

These trillion dollar wars have created financing problems for Washington's deficits and threaten the U.S. dollar's role as world reserve currency. The wars and the pressure that the budget deficits put on the dollar's value have put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block. Former Goldman Sachs chairman and U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson is after these protections for the elderly. Fed chairman Bernanke is also after them. The Republicans are after them as well. These protections are called "entitlements" as if they are some sort of welfare that people have not paid for in payroll taxes all their working lives.

With over 21 per cent unemployment as measured by the methodology of 1980, with American jobs, GDP, and technology having been given to China and India, with war being Washington's greatest commitment, with the dollar over-burdened with debt, with civil liberty sacrificed to the "war on terror," the liberty and prosperity of the American people have been thrown into the trash bin of history.

The militarism of the U.S. and Israeli states, and Wall Street and corporate greed, will now run their course. As the pen is censored and its might extinguished, I am signing off.


http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts03242010.html

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Re: Why do Americans take it?

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Originally posted by Coincidence
It's pretty obvious from over here, that God's Own Country is going down. Morally, spiritually, economically, physically.

I know you can't generalize americans, but where on Earth are all the smart ones? In heaven?

After Bush (or another politician) lies to you, and changes the world accordingly, you just take it - you discuss whether the lies will work, and did he seem confident etc.
It seems so powerless. And it sure is. Problem is, you're dragging parts of the world down with you.

American: "why do they hate us so much?!"
Sentient being: "The question answers itself, moron."

So where is the rebellion? Can I have some answers please?



Sure,the smart ones don't say anything because they know it doesn't matter.You can not stop our government,i don't care who you think you are or what country you're from[i don't mean you in particular],if the powers that be want something to pass,or perhaps an unorthodox perspective of the constitution inorder to justify(whatever),then it's going down weather we like it or not.You're dealing with a country that can literally erase any trace of your existence,not to mention we are aligned with an ally that will FUCK YOU UP if given the go ahead.There's no such thing as independence,there never was and never will be.Illusions Mr.Anderson.

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A smart guy like you (I don't mean you in paticular) must be aware that he's being fucked hard in the ass on a number of levels. How do you resign to that? When do you say 'ok, I'll be an abused asshole until I die'? Does it come gradually? When do you start attaching pride to it?

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Originally posted by Coincidence
A smart guy like you (I don't mean you in paticular) must be aware that he's being fucked hard in the ass on a number of levels. How do you resign to that? When do you say 'ok, I'll be an abused asshole until I die'? Does it come gradually? When do you start attaching pride to it?


Well if i were a smart man i would have realised this along time ago.Then read a book or two and discovered the ultimate backstage pass.Long story short[3 years of persistence to be exact]I'm only 32 years old and i'm already on SSI,my bills and any medical concerns are completely funded by my Uncle Sammy.Who's getting fucked in the ass now?If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times,the genius of my ignorance is so fucking unbelievable i don't even realise what I've said until i'm forced to respond or account for the very nature of it's....hold that thought,coffee just kicked in and i gotta booboo.

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The guy in that article doesn't even try to sound objective or serious.

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Americans, or most of them, have proved to be putty in the hands of the police state.

Americans have bought into the government's claim that security requires the suspension of civil liberties and accountable government. Astonishingly, Americans, or most of them, believe that civil liberties, such as habeas corpus and due process, protect "terrorists," and not themselves. Many also believe that the Constitution is a tired old document that prevents government from exercising the kind of police state powers necessary to keep Americans safe and free.


Police state ? I have more freedom than you do Coincidence.

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Not for long! THE OBAMINATOR IS TAKING THEM AWAY FROM YOU! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Not for long! THE OBAMINATOR IS TAKING THEM AWAY FROM YOU! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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No they won't. But it's ironic that the people who write articles like this are actually the ones who take freedoms in the name of "fairness" or that it's good for you.

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The problem with the Third Reich was that the Nazis rose to power and removed freedoms so quickly that the process was noticeable.

The Fourth isn't making that mistake.

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I have more freedom than you do Coincidence.

How do you know this? How many hours do you work a week, for example?

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We are more free because we are Americans and the media tells us so. You are not free because your government is different and we will bomb you if you disagree and will loan us the money to build more bombs you godless heathen.

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As long as one human is in bondage, we are not free!

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How do you know this? How many hours do you work a week, for example?


34 to 40.

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Poor slave. And now you have to give your income away as well.

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I will give far less than you do I'll bet.

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