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Emerald
Cuddly Puppy

Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Texas
Posts: 2593
Unhappy For Mr Sherman

Hey son......

I miss ya. It's been too long since I've seen you.

I started my new job this morning and worked until about 6pm trying to get this curriculum together to teach a new computing class on Monday.

After getting home, I found several posts which I needed to address in this Forum, but your sister has started playing softball again and had a tournament tonight. So, I couldn't address those posts.

Now, I've returned to see an abundance of posts that have made me realize I'm wwaaaaaaaaayyyyy out of line trying to express my own feelings and beliefs here. The majority of people in this Forum are so anti-christian, that I can't express my own feelings without being just outright attacked from all sides. I'm just outnumbered and cannot respond to all of them.

When others express their beliefs or feelings on a subject without being sarcastic, debasing, or inflamatory toward my own, I can respond....otherwise....I'm lost. Some of your new acquaintances here are very HARD and very harsh. Not all of them mind you. There are a couple that actually were 'debating' very well and not trying to 'attack' me personally, but it got way out of hand....

Well, I just wanted you to know that I appreciate your invitation to participate on this Forum, but I'll not return. It's just a waste of my own time to try and 'debate' rationally here. And I'll not take the chance of embarrassing you by expressing myself and my beliefs anymore either.

I Love You Always, no matter what....
Mom

P.S. Do any/all of your 'christian' friends a favor and don't invite them here.



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DevilMoon
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Ignore that last part, invite all kinds of people here. Keeps the place interesting.

DM

ps. That was your mom??

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hmm, this was supposed to be edited but I fucked that up too and replied.

it's a full moon, maybe that explains it.

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DevilMoon
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wow, my first actual double post... and I have no idea what I did.

Weird.

must be god warning me or something.

D n' f'n M

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Chantrea
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Blah, Emerald.. I'm sorry that you feel you should leave. I understand you feel very strongly in your beliefs, and I respect that deeply. Some of us were very offended when you expressed your sadness at our spiritual choice. That being said, this is just a forum. You were correct when you said you have every right to express your beliefs & opinions.

I learned the hard way, you need to be able to not take things said in here personally. Everyone will not always agree with you, and like you, but so what? There are people here worth getting to know better.

If you do decide to leave for good, I don't know what else to say then I'm sorry you were offended so badly.

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SocialParasite
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Registered: Jul 2000
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Please invite all your "Christian" friends. I need more victim . . . err . . . playthin . . . Um . . . Friends.

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Was it something you would do for anybody?
Was it what you'd only do for me?
Or was it something where you acted when you saw the need
And knew that there would be a way the act could be repaid
And so it may, but for today
I want to thank you for putting me back in my snail shell

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wonderaz
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Wow, sorry to see you go Emerald, I am a little surprised to see you tuck tail and run.
I would think that if you wished to stand your beliefs up in here that you could at least stand up with them, not make a thread then with one litle comment, get as many positive replies as negative, then run away.

You are right though, this is a tough crowd, a varied group with many beliefs.
Each one of them thinks they are as right as you do.
Each one also knows that there are plenty in here to argue with them about their beliefs too.
Each also is aware that the talk can get tough, too. It's a no holds barred forum. You can say what you want and no one can stop you. In return you just have to remember that your comments can get responses that you may not like but the person replying is also stating what they want.
You are wrong to state that the majority here are antichristian, I'm not, most are not.
A few are, a few are anti organized religion, some are just not christian. There are a couple of Jews, some athiests, a few agnostics, a Buddhist or two, all kinds.
So what?
If you are a true believer, do you not believe in a man who was not afraid to walk among the wolves? Yet you run? Hmmmmm.
This just may not be a place to talk about your faith if you are not strong enough to stand against those that don't agree with you. this forum is filled with people that LOVE to argue, that is one reason they are here, the love of a lively debate.
And they can get REAL personal, but then so what? It's the internet and it's the Asylum. Freedom reigns here.
Tomorrow, you can find yourself laughing and joking with the same person you were viciously debating the day before.

Ah well, I, for one will be sorry to see you go.

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I am slightly saddened by Emerald's decision to go, but at the same time I am glad to see her go. If she isn't strong enough in her faith and belief that she can't defend it properly perhaps it is best that she retreat to safer zones.

And I was looking forward to having someone worth debating with.

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"Your experiment this week, Joel, is called Pod People. It has nothing to do with pods, it has nothing to do with people, it has everything to do with *hurting*." - Dr. Forrester, MST3K

Was it something you would do for anybody?
Was it what you'd only do for me?
Or was it something where you acted when you saw the need
And knew that there would be a way the act could be repaid
And so it may, but for today
I want to thank you for putting me back in my snail shell

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gary coleman
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Registered: Jul 2000
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Listen, you cum guzzling heroin addict: this place was founded off shit eating and tentacle rape, ok? Take your fucked up family matters someplace else.


P.S. You are insane.

P.P.S. Jesus hates you.

quote:
Originally posted by Emerald:
Hey son......

I miss ya. It's been too long since I've seen you.

I started my new job this morning and worked until about 6pm trying to get this curriculum together to teach a new computing class on Monday.

After getting home, I found several posts which I needed to address in this Forum, but your sister has started playing softball again and had a tournament tonight. So, I couldn't address those posts.

Now, I've returned to see an abundance of posts that have made me realize I'm wwaaaaaaaaayyyyy out of line trying to express my own feelings and beliefs here. The majority of people in this Forum are so anti-christian, that I can't express my own feelings without being just outright attacked from all sides. I'm just outnumbered and cannot respond to all of them.

When others express their beliefs or feelings on a subject without being sarcastic, debasing, or inflamatory toward my own, I can respond....otherwise....I'm lost. Some of your new acquaintances here are very HARD and very harsh. Not all of them mind you. There are a couple that actually were 'debating' very well and not trying to 'attack' me personally, but it got way out of hand....

Well, I just wanted you to know that I appreciate your invitation to participate on this Forum, but I'll not return. It's just a waste of my own time to try and 'debate' rationally here. And I'll not take the chance of embarrassing you by expressing myself and my beliefs anymore either.

I Love You Always, no matter what....
Mom

P.S. Do any/all of your 'christian' friends a favor and don't invite them here.




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wonderaz
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Oh yeah, then there is garycoleman.

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Roshigoth
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Registered: Aug 2000
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Sorry to see you go. I didn't agree with you on many points, but I hate to see someone feel unwelcome.

That said, I really believe that your problem is simply being oversensitive to statements that were not made with antichristian intent.

Aside from that, you've also expressed your sadness at just about every other person's expressed religion. Then you have the gall to start complaining that people are bashing yours. First off, many of the statements you've complained about being antichristian were more anti-organized religion, anti-certain christian practices (some of which you yourself had remarked upon), or even complimentary to the christian faith. I have perhaps seen 2 legitimate attacks on Christianity. More attacks were made against your claim that one post or another "made you sad" or that we were attacking christianity.

But, we're all entitled to our opinions, you included. If you feel that we were unfair toward you, then by all means leave. You should probably realize, however, that we're unfair to just about everyone here. It's how we are. You were no exception, and it had nothing to do with your religion.

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shnakeman
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sorry to see you go.

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Shadow23
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quote:
Originally posted by Emerald:
Some of your new acquaintances here are very HARD and very harsh. Not all of them mind you. There are a couple that actually were 'debating' very well and not trying to 'attack' me personally, but it got way out of hand....



True on all counts.

HOWEVER...

"Let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone."

If memory serves, that was you.
I find this very sad.
I, for one, did not "attack" xtianity. Trust me, I could have. Every once in a while, I'll decide to debate (why the quotes?) the topic with a xtian, and it always winds up like this.

It's not your beliefs, you are as entitled to them as any of us are to ours. It's the "tsk tsk" nature of your expression that got so many goats here, I do believe. To paraphrase the Golden Rule that's held so dear by so many, you'll get what you give. That's the way this place operates.

That said, you are by no means discouraged from hanging around, debating whatever topic may grab your attention, shootin' the shit, goofing off, you name it. However, condescention will get you the same, in spades.

Like Wonder said, tomorrow, you may be laughing and joking with the same person you were so viciously debating the night before. That's the way it goes.

Do what you feel you must, but try not to be a stranger. This place can always use another stirrer of the pot.



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redguard
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I wish that you would reconsider, Emerald. I wish that you would not leave. I had not even gotten the chance to meet you, and you're already gone.

This place can be unforgiving. Some of the people here can be exceedingly harsh. It is not my place to apologize for them, however. I am only sorry that I did not participate in the debate that ultimately caused your retreat. I can only apologize for my own faults.

I ask you to return. I ask for purely selfish reasons. Your opinions represent something that is conspicuously absent here. Your presence means something to me. That is all I shall say.

redguard@blackvault.com

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gary coleman
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I still say you're a cum guzzling heroin addict.

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Spooky
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Emerald.....if you go I will hound your email from her to eternity....you hear me....thats not a threat, its a promise.

Look I say things in here alot that people disagree with, and there are people in here who purposefully wind me up, as do i do the same to them.

You have your beliefs, that is important. We all have our beliefs, and we are all, whether one admits it or not searching for something. Don't be put off by the replies to your Creationist thread. They are not really attacking you, they are attacking the idea. If they were to meet you in real life I am pretty sure none would deride you for your beliefs, they would probably avoid talkign about them.

But here, they, all of us, can hide behind the glass and circuit boards, and tear someone to shreds in a virtual form of anonymity. That is the beuty of such a place.

Don't leave because people told you you were wrong, they simply have different opinions to you. Remeber this is a Global village, and there will inevitably be those who disagree with your belief systems.

Would you feel as upset if someone had said that your God was not God and Vishnu was God, or Buddha was God? That Jesus was not the son of God and Krishan was?

To leave now only debase your beliefs and lets the other side think they have won. Debate is not about winning or 'owning' its about ideas and thought coming together to look for some sort of truth.The process will often be messy, and some may dislike, but that is the nature of human interaction.

Don't go. I hope you lurk and read this.

P.S. Ignore Gary he is a dwarf

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I quote, therefore I am - Spooky

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aminal
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what a waste.


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Goatboy
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Hmmm, heroin.

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Hmmm, cum-guzzling

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Fiend
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*weeps openly*

don't go!!!!!

who am i gonna cyber with now?!?!?!??!

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MrSherman
NO MORE ASYLUM

Registered: Sep 2000
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You people have mad eme realize what is really important to me: my family. Cheers to you.

I invited my mother to this place on the net thinking that she would have fun with it. You were my friends and I thought you would accept her and take her into the 'family' that we have become here. Because thats what we are right? ALl of us that came from Stile's site? We're our own little family.

My mother is a religious person, I didn't think about this before I invited her, and that's my fault. I'm not a very religious person, and this is saddens her. But I never argue her, bash her or put her down whenever she expresses her opinions. Which is exactly what you people have done. Now he's gone. And it's YOUR fucking fault and no one elses. By 'you people' I mean a certain few who will remain nameless, because i have respect for them, little, but some.

Like I said in chat, you people fucked me. You fucked me in the ass. I live close to 200 miles away from her and this is the only way that I thought we coudl enjoy openly talking to each other and others. I blame myself for thinking I could depend on you to act even slightly civil towards her.

She refuses to become hard-hearted and take the abyse that I can take from you people. WHich is fine, I dont' expect her to become like that, in fact, I would I blame myself if she ever did. She's the most loving caring person I know.


I love my mom, I DON'T love you people. I stick with my family. So I'm hitting the high road. I'm gone. Fini. Adios. Adieu. Nice knowing ya. Have a nice life.

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quote:
Originally posted by MrSherman:
I love my mom, I DON'T love you people. I stick with my family. So I'm hitting the high road. I'm gone. Fini. Adios. Adieu. Nice knowing ya. Have a nice life.



Don't go.

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I'm leaving too!!

*turns around, walks through door, SLAMS DOOR SHUT*

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*KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK!!!*

*opens door, peers around and steps back in*

HI EVERYBODY! I'M BACK!

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Would that make us brothers, or something?

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