quote:Originally posted by SimpleSimon You are showing yourself to be a classically delusional magical thinker more and more, judge. Claiming credit for very non-specific events as fulfillment of your psychotic curses is a pitiful act of desperation.
if you just read statistics books
the probability of having twin deaths and twin half masts in the 2 highest courts at the same time, 2 justices
it never happened since 1901
coupled with the fire, the 5 deaths and successive deaths of judges from 1999
verily under law, circumstantial but strong evidence of the
WRATH OF THE DWARVES
quote:Originally posted by Coincidence Floro is the best explanation so far. I for one believe he can drive people to their deaths.
i lenthily argued that COINCIDENCE is ruled out in these dire prophetic events
due to the magic of circumstantial proofs, i declare PRE-COGNITION
by these MYSTIC DWARVES
and i am just an instrument of these 3 angels ordered by God to cleanse our very hypocrite and corrupt judiciary 2nd to none
except the 9th cirus court of california where i was just appointed as its dellusional member to preside
quote:Originally posted by Rubiconz Judge, it behooves you to be careful because obviously Mordecai is jealous. It devours him day and night since he learned the truth of his nature and he also cannot stop repeating himself. What a shame. Someone must start a fund for his salvation by dwarves.
oh, not Rubiconz
I am judge floro, and just having fun in being especially privileged to chat to all members of forums around the world since april 7
i love all members including you and mordecai since you are part of my sad life
it is just that it is fun posting sense and non-sense as part of this forum game and fun
i never cursed really anyone or member
i did curse and wished bad
but it is only in typing and internet
to scare them
and make the NOT LAZY
since many members are too lazy to ask me specific questions
due to your work out there
quote:Originally posted by judgefloro oh, not Rubiconz
I am judge floro, and just having fun in being especially privileged to chat to all members of forums around the world since april 7
i love all members including you and mordecai since you are part of my sad life
it is just that it is fun posting sense and non-sense as part of this forum game and fun
i hope you and mordecai the best and God bless
Ahhh! But, judgefloro, fun and games is why I post! I simply put myself at the level of whomever is the subject of my post and go from there. I can take whatever is dished to me, yet, have been consistently shown it doesn't work that way for said subject, as they can dish it out, but, cannot take it. Without a doubt, he who thinks himself hot shit on a stick is truly nothing but a fart on a toothpick. (Trust me, they will add that to their repertoire. It was a fav of my dear departed ex.)
quote:Originally posted by Rubiconz Ahhh! But, judgefloro, fun and games is why I post! I simply put myself at the level of whomever is the subject of my post and go from there. I can take whatever is dished to me, yet, have been consistently shown it doesn't work that way for said subject, as they can dish it out, but, cannot take it. Without a doubt, he who thinks himself hot shit on a stick is truly nothing but a fart on a toothpick. (Trust me, they will add that to their repertoire. It was a fav of my dear departed ex.)
I want to aprise you of the ignorance of filipinos on blogs forums and posting
Do you know that our courts barely have computers and internets?
and 2 justices do not even know how to type except via manual typewriters
i wanted to learn internet and computer - forum replies and blog answers
so i went to the best computer schools beside me
and most of the professors do not know bbc code html imaging
and they never ever heard about forums and blogs
so, i learned it by myseld
also, here in the philippines, barely .01% do have computers at home
so, this is a cellphone texting capital
forums and blogs are rare here except in media
so, kevin underhill said that i am a prolific blogger
Now that he has more time, Judge Floro has become a prolific blogger himself, and also a frequent self-Googler, so I'd like to take this opportunity to thank him for his repeated contributions this past year.
i joined more than 60 forums
and i learned to understand the minds of tired members
they just post without thinking
you can read their minds by their posts
you cannot change their minds
most of all, filipino forums are the best crab mentility lovers
they will destroy me and not only my opinion
just because they are angry with the world
they don't care what is the issue
they will not read the decision in my case...
but that is the way they behave ...
I would beg to differ Mr Floro (since you're not a Judge anymore it would be inappropriate for me to call you that). If you look @ demographics in the Phillipines, you will see that there has been a 170% rise in computer use in Cebu alone (source: The Filipino Reporter). The main reason for this rise in computer purchases/useage is so potential single Pinoy ladies have the chance to meet new people from overseas with the hopes of meeting and/or marrying so they can leave and find a better life. My mother was 4 months pregnant w/ me when she arrived in the U.S., so I was born an American, but Pinoy in backround. I never had to deal with the struggles of true Pinoys that try everyday to make a better life for themselves by putting in their applications for visa to the U.S. So, the Filipinos are actually getting computer knowledge. They know how to post flattering images of themselves to lure in perverted foreigners that hope to bag a hot Cebuana girl so they can be their maid, care-taker, and fuck buddy wrapped up in one. The trade-off? Citizenship in a 1st world country. How's that for being computer-literate?
quote:Originally posted by towrofstgh I would beg to differ Mr Floro (since you're not a Judge anymore it would be inappropriate for me to call you that). If you look @ demographics in the Phillipines, you will see that there has been a 170% rise in computer use in Cebu alone (source: The Filipino Reporter). The main reason for this rise in computer purchases/useage is so potential single Pinoy ladies have the chance to meet new people from overseas with the hopes of meeting and/or marrying so they can leave and find a better life. My mother was 4 months pregnant w/ me when she arrived in the U.S., so I was born an American, but Pinoy in backround. I never had to deal with the struggles of true Pinoys that try everyday to make a better life for themselves by putting in their applications for visa to the U.S. So, the Filipinos are actually getting computer knowledge. They know how to post flattering images of themselves to lure in perverted foreigners that hope to bag a hot Cebuana girl so they can be their maid, care-taker, and fuck buddy wrapped up in one. The trade-off? Citizenship in a 1st world country. How's that for being computer-literate?
I concur and dissent with your stats:
While most countries started to reap the benefits of computer dominated transactions, Filipinos below the poverty line still wonder how does a computer work and how it will help them in their daily lives. Underprivileged school children may never experience the power of a small gadget that could be as handy as pocket calculator, in doing limitless task, at unbelievable speed and in superb accuracy.
It’s truly unfortunate that the margin between the rich and poor could be traced even in this new field of interest. For instance, private schools offer computer literacy program as early as pre-school, and substantially improved as they progress in their studies, whereas, public elementary schools do not include in their curriculum any computer subject. For consolation, there is an introduction of computer education to public school students starting on their secondary level but still lagging miserably behind compared to their private school counterparts.
In the Philippines, 81% of the schools has no access to the Internet.
quote:Originally posted by Avondale this is like the best thing that's ever happened here. wow this is awesome!
YES, IT IS EVEN NOW
ONLY THAT YOU ARE SICK WITH AMNESIA
THIS IS NOT ONLY AWESOME
BUT ALL MY THREAD PREDICTIONS CAME TO PASS
read the bible
jesus healed the sick
delivered sermon on the mount
and on palm sunday
they said THIS IS AWESOME
but 3 days later, AVONDALE said
CRUCIFY JUDGE FLORO
quote:Originally posted by Rokkr Hey, Avondale. Considering all the wacky stuff and bullshit that gets posted here, and some of the posters are actually serious (eatme comes to mind), what is it about the judge that riles you so much?
avondale is very sick of amnesia
from obscurity as poor judge renting a house
i received a SUMMONS from
so i was given 10 days to file answer as in any court whether kangaroo, moro-moro or what
US SEN. BARBARA BOXER, Senate panel chair: It remains to be seen if the Philippine government’s assurances ... will be followed by real and tangible actions. The Bush administration on Wednesday (Mar 14) said Philippine President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had not done enough to deal with security forces under her command who were allegedly involved in extrajudicial killings.
Originally Posted by GMan
Hey judge this is a very intriguing conversation. It has been a while since their was such a good thread started. Are their any magical dwarfs in the USA or do they primarily live in the Philippines.
oh i tell your that -
there are 4 elementals
as paracelsus a medical doctor said
and there are elementals as many of us are
only we do not see them
when i was in the ateneo, as math and science lover
i am more skeptical than the agnostics and atheists about these
i only believed due to impeccable material proofs i saw
like the handwritten signature of LUIS per robert's signed
before ateneo chair of psychology jesuit fr. jaime bulatao
plus the recorded lights that i saw i record them in my celphone
and now i saw the space ships of LUIS i was able to ride the other day coz
i was not afraid
and i tasted the ride first since 1983
i am a see to believe man
now, everywhere there are gnomes and dwarves not only in the philippines
i repeatedly pasted here
lester hardy's link on iceland
where you cannot even build a house without certificate from the engineer that elves do not reside there
so they can detect
and in ireland lots of leprechauns
i warn you that these elementals
will never allow you to sense them
until you pass their tests
and if you are destined
they have computers
our hands and palms are recorded in their light meters
I OFFERED FOOD TO THEM FROM 1984-1992
it was only that time that i saw the lights until now
oh it is the hardest test of my life
but the reward is great:
WORLD-famous and immortality
literraly since i was murdered 3x but was unhurt
so now, i have no fear in my heart
my only fear is that i am JOBLESS
cannot move on
since they wanted me to detach myself from material things
so that it would be easy for them to INFUSE the spiritual gifts that i will be...
like these vision of and travel FTL with space ships
i thought is damn shit
but it became reality
many INDIA CITIZENS do vedic and other rites to see these
but they could not in astral travel and projections
coz these planes are of the highest levels
Originally Posted by Wolfgang
My friend, and superior, and worshipped one, Judge Floro.
Have you taken any more time to think about the case in which I have hyperlinked you to yesterday regarding the court case.
Thank you wise sir.
Yours in war and praise,
Shawshenk Redemption is great movie, you agree?
oh i promised but give me time
i have to read that
in arse forum of british army members i was asked to submit to them a threatise on milosovic
i asked time
but i failed since i could not possibly do a memorandum on something that is really deeply and mysteriously kept secret
so the world is really wondering if he is a martyr or is a killer
i told them
that it is hard to judge a dead man if really he did it or he was persecuted
i read the long posts and other links but i cannot properly judge milosovic
you submitted to me a case
and you know
do not believe the reports about me that i consult dwarves
that is not their business
i will give you an example
here in our courts
most if not all witness are well trained to testify like in yours
i was faced with one where the boy friend failed to have sex with the girl
and he sued her for estafa
but it turned out that it was not but both were telling lies
so i asked my maid to listen to the testimony while i did not
i just read the transcripts
and i decided based on my maid's findings
now, minister puno here did the same
in grey areas
he consulted his wife
and everyone does
the justices here and judges
almost all of them
do not read the court rollo or expediente
what they receive are prepared drafts of decisions
and their fixers would talk to the buyers of decisions
so it is that way
i will prove to you:
Miss yeah, I am about to finish editing my 2nd book, tough 900 pages 6x9
Actually, I visited this thread since I am about to finish my 900 pages (6x9) 2nd book on my ordeal, case and the 3 mystic dwarves; and I am including about 70 of the 140 forums that wrote about my case and wherein I responded to the threads; its part of my life: the first book is just a copy paste of links just in case you have no time to read my links in Google search "judge florentino floro" and a little bit of pleadings and tirades against those who fabricated my story;
But the second book is 80% original - all about the untold DIARY of my 7 years judicial suspension, the prophecies and the 3 mystic Filipino dwarves.
Author Floro, Florentino V., 1925-
Title World-famous mystic : Armand, Luis & Angel, the three dwarfs meets the judge-- psychic & healing martyr of Filipino justice / by Florentino V. Floro, Jr.
Publication info. [S.l. : s.n.], 2007 (Quezon City : Central Book Supply)
TITLE: World famous mystic Armand, Luis Angel, the three dwarfs meet the judge sychic healing martyr of Filipino justice /Florentino V. Floro.
LOCAL CALL NUMBER : K 19 F56A3
PERSONAL NAME(m) : Floro, Florentino
PUBLISHING : Quezon City :Central Book Supply,c2007.
PHYSICAL DESC : 367 pages
LUIS the Elf of Cosmic Holy Justice
and His Pet Human, His Honor
Florentino V. Floro, Jr.
by Laszlo Xalieri
When I'd just started college, one of my good friends professed to be a duke of Hell. In a "no, seriously" kind of way. What the heck, I figured. I wasn't done being a Christian at the time, which meant means I was supposed to buy the possibility of supernatural-type crap.
This was all back in the mid-1980s at the Georgia Institute of Technology, by the way -- an engineering school with an international reputation and a bastion of Science. I was seventeen.
An open mind is essential to a scientist. It's not so essential to a scientist who has fallen into the trap (in my opinion) of putting faith into, among other things, a) the possibility that science can explain everything, b) that there are basic laws that govern nature, and c) that the supernatural is either explainable in terms of science or it's crap.
As a scientist, I have to recognize that one of the basic tenets of science is that any framework of rules we currently use and trust can be proven worthless by a single unlucky example. We have to be ready to let go of anything and everything, possibly even the process of science itself, if a single valid counterexample presents itself. Thus, an open mind is required. Even if that means doing all of your dangerous thinking without a net.
In fact, the duke of Hell isn't really any part of this story -- except to show that certain unlikely things can flourish in any environment. To the best of my knowledge, he got a degree, spawned children, and was by the time I lost track of him gainfully employed by a multinational technology firm based in Germany .
Instead, this story is about a man who, not quite ten years after I left Georgia Tech, landed an appointment as a trial judge in the Philippines . I won't call his career particularly uneventful. It had events. And it was over, for all intents and purposes, in under nine months.
Around then, everyone with a job like mine was wrapped up in Y2K-proofing every piece of code we'd ever touched. If anything hit the news from the Philippines , I pretty much missed it. I remember Imelda Marcos and her shoe collection. A bit more locally, I remember Bill Clinton and his misplaced cigar.
Judge Florentino V. Floro, Jr., passed his bar exam with high grades. He passed an interview okay, didn't do so well with a psychological evaluation, got a second opinion that was allowed to overrule the first one, and took a seat on the bench. In eight months or so, he was suspended pending an investigation regarding a handful of irregularities. Blue robes, for instance, instead of black ones (except on Fridays, in order to recharge his psychic powers).
Before you shout "Looney!" recall the definition of pathology: It's not an illness or a disease unless it interferes with one's ability to work or study, with relationships with friends or family. Short of that, and it's just a quirk. A trait.
And if belief in psychic powers isn't quite your bag, suck it. A lot of people believe in psychic powers. It doesn't matter if it's bunkum. You can't go firing or imprisoning people because they have a belief you think is funny. Hell, there'd be maybe seven or eight of us incredulous skeptic bastards left outside the prisons, each trying our dead-level best to lock up the last six or seven.
Like I said, suck it. Judicial, congressional, and educational sessions are opened with prayers worldwide. Floro had a reading from the Bible he liked to include. He also claimed to have a God-given gift to heal people, which he exercised on breaks. And a few other things, all of which are very well documented, if you are interested in the gory details. Start here, if you feel like being thorough.
Anyway, he was suspended pending investigation. It was supposed to take around sixty days. Ninety max. Floro fought back, challenging the qualifications and impartiality of the investigators, challenging any questionable detail, and at the same time getting upset (and filing complaints accordingly) that things were taking so long.
A couple months short of seven years later, the Supreme Court of the Philippines issues a ruling on the thirteen charges and/or other points to be investigated for Floro's suspension. In the end they fine him forty thousand pesos (around $1,000 US), reimburse him three years of back pay (blaming him for dragging things out, so sticking him with responsibility for the other four years) and declare him unfit for judicial service due to his unsavory psychological quirks and apparent unwillingness to present a dignified image consistent with trial judges in the Philippines. Separated from service. Fired. More or less.
Consistency check: His beliefs interfered with his work. Therefore, according to the definition of pathology, he is ill. Except, say, if he had a job as an evangelist or a faith healer or some other kind of non-judge bureaucrat, at which point he would be sufficiently sane. In fact, the sixty-plus-page ruling I linked to above pretty much said that.
Is it possible to be conditionally ill, depending on your job? Given the definition of pathology, I'd have to say yes. For instance, I'd be nuts to be a linebacker for the New England Patriots. I'm 5'4" and less than a hundred and sixty pounds. Even if I were otherwise qualified, it would be clear evidence of a suicidal urge.
I haven't gotten to the elfs yet. Duendes, Elemental spirits of great power, the Red ones forever at war with the Blacks. Like ants here in Georgia . Except in the Philippines (and probably elsewhere) the Red ones are the good guys. Provisionally speaking.
Elfs appear to feature prominently in Floro's case. I'm assuming they're Catholic elfs, as Floro is himself devoutly Catholic. And before you say anything here, let me mention law, and Santeria, and how all the classic pagan deities and heroes of the British Isles ended up as Catholic saints. I've read the Bible in its entirety, even the slightly fatter Catholic one, and, let me tell you, a lot of popular proper nouns are missing. Among the missing names are Luis, Armand, and Angel -- the three duendes who have been an integral part of Floro's life since 1996 (although Angel didn't come along until 2006).
Floro's mildly retarded brother, who, according to Floro, retains enough innocence to experience the beings directly, introduced Floro to Luis back in 1984, around the time of death of their father. Floro himself experiences Luis as a nearly daily visitation of violet and white lights and, at least once each, as a "regal violet king" and as a chicken. Floro's compact with Luis et al grants Floro certain healing gifts, psychic powers, and the ability to bestow curses to punish the wicked and corrupt. (In particular the wicked and corrupt justices of the Philippine court system, which, indeed, have an international reputation for being quite wicked and corrupt.)
This is the part that attracted the attention of the international press, of course. According to the take on the story you'd get from just reading the headlines and no deeper, you'd discover that Floro was fired from his position because of his association with killer elfs. Those headlines were indeed what caught my eye. I commented about them (irreverently, as usual) in my blog.
Floro himself responded. And, sensing with my own psychic powers a depth of story only hinted at by the headlines, I asked him for an interview. He said, in effect, bring it. He's been interviewed a number of times before. I read those interviews over and set up a bunch of questions that I believed filled in some gaps from previous interviews.
These are the questions I sent:
* What's the ideal outcome for your current situation with respect to your career, your family, and you daily life?
* What is your typical day like? To what extent do supernatural elements of any kind affect your average day, if at all?
* What was the best day of your life? What was the worst?
* If you had to choose to give up one of your goals or gifts, which one would it be and why?
* How would you describe your relationships with your brothers?
* Why did you drop the suits you had pending against those people you were accusing of trying to ruin your career? What made you decide to let them off the hook?
* Do you ever have disagreements with Luis, Armand, and Angel? Do they ever scare you?
* I have a big problem with punishing one's family for crimes one has committed. In modern days, it's permissible to choose your wife or husband, but children can in no way be responsible for the actions of their parents. You mention that some judicial official's child was born with epilepsy as punishment for something a parent has done to you. Where is the justice in that? And doesn't it imply that that your brother's mental disabilities might be punishment for something you or your parents might have done?
In response I received ... well, it's hard to describe what I received. When reformatted to single-spaced ten-point type, around ten pages. Later expanded to fifteen--and simultaneously filed with the Philippine Supreme Court, lightly seasoned with my own personal information harvested from various and sundry sites and what passes for my credentials. To be followed by a death announcement, a travelogue with some nice pictures, and previous versions of mailings reissued with expansions, illustrations, and attachments. All in good fun.
The question about "ideal outcome" was skipped, or else embedded elsewhere. In all, he seems willing to accept whatever horrors Luis drags him through as an acceptable substitute to "ideal."
Here's a portion of his response to the "typical day" question, lightly edited for style and grammar and shrunk like a new cotton t-shirt in a super-hot clothes dryer:
I've been jobless since July 20, 1999. I begged for compassion from the most powerful in our judicial, executive and legislative departments ... from all my classmates (Ateneo Law, Class of '82, including 2 incumbent Supreme Court Justices). I asked all of them to give me clemency, compassion, justice, kindness, and a job. But as Luis desired, I failed in my quests.
I've been financially helped by a kind brother (we are five) since last year and, in my most difficult times, just to survive. Luis would not permit me yet to have a job. He wanted me to suffer more. By bearing my cross, Luis would be able to infuse upon my mortal body the higher violet and white pure lights to fight evil or the black angels (fallen, the instruments of 666, in Revelations).
Two of my brothers are multimillionaires. (They have mansions in Valle Verde, Pasig City, Metro Manila, in Bulacan and in Greenhills; they are engaged in gold, diamond and foreign exchange trading; they have expensive cars - Mercedes, Volvo, Pajero, Nissan Durano, etc., and several security guards...) I have only rented a house since 1989. I walk and take the bus.
From April 7, 2006 until today, as I am unemployed, I wake up at 10 AM. I eat vegetables and fishes and sometimes meat. I sit in an Internet cafe from 12 Noon to 12 Midnight (with breaks, 8 to 10 PM to eat). I respond to a thousand blogs' comments, like yours and thousands of posts in 140 forums that reported my case based on more than a hundred international wire reports and front-page headlines. I am an established Wikipedia editor and contributor. Recently, I spent about 10 hours daily editing Wikipedia and creating articles.
I'm assuming the best day involved entering into his agreement with Luis. For worst days, he mentions three attacks on his life. I'm assuming ordinary muggings, as he doesn't mention suspected links to enemies in the courts system or elsewhere. In response to my question about gifts to give up, he says he basically has no choice in the matter and it's impossible to give any up, adding that his life would be worthless without Luis and the impact he has had.
Of his four brothers, two of them are wealthy, and at least one of those, I'm assuming, is his benefactor. His brother Robert is the mildly retarded one, and Floro has custody. There is another brother who apparently believes Floro should not have custody of Robert and has sued unsuccessfully to take Robert away. Their relationship is understandably somewhat cool.
Floro filed suits against a number of people who he believes acted with malice to try to get him fired from his job.
He says his reason for dropping the suits was that he could forgive them somewhat for their fear and discomfort in working with him, and also the suits were about to be dismissed on technicalities anyway. It was an easy concession.
The final two questions generated a bit more in terms of response. I gather from Floro's words that Luis and company terrify him all the time.
They ask him to perform horrible curses on the corrupt judges and justices -- former coworkers and associates -- and their families and spouses and children. He's refused a number of times and eventually was forced to compromise or give in completely.
He sent me huge catalogs of material, documented in English and Tagalog (not that I can read Tagalog, but that's my problem, not his), detailing pretty much every horrible thing that has happened to judges and supreme court justices and their families, and claiming personal responsibility for deaths, illnesses, accidents, birth defects, and the occasional courthouse fire.
As you can see in my final question, I take issue with visiting divine retribution on innocent children and generations unborn and ask to hear his justification.
His response is largely that it's always been done that way and gives numerous biblical references, paying particular attention to the 109th and 73rd Psalms, which are, indeed, quite grim.
That doesn't help me much; I've carried that same objection to God Himself, who offers absolutely no justifications for anything He does. God's Divine Finger of Holy Retribution is roughly ten miles wide at the tip and has all the fine motor control of an epileptic ape on an anthill.
God possibly thinks so, too. In the Old Testament, even before there were kings, His prophets set up the office of judges (with whole books dedicated to the phenomenon) and legal systems to help give attention to the fiddly details of human interactions and prescribe sentences, while still a tad harsh by modern Western standards, perhaps less overkill than worldwide flooding, plagues of frogs, killing all the firstborn males, and torrents of burning brimstone. And -- if you believe modern evangelists -- hurricanes, earthquakes, and tsunamis.
It's my opinion that even a laughably corrupt judiciary is (albeit slightly) preferable to "a STAIN on his blood unto the FOURTH GENERATION," because at least with the former you can have hope of justice if you can raise enough money for the bribe.
My further opinion, Mr. Floro, is that Luis is bad news for you. He may have a tremendous plateful of holy work for you to do and bizarre and cool holy gifts with which to pay you, but you won't have a peaceful, normal life until you give him his walking papers. In your own words, "HIS WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS." I believe there's good reason for this. I also believe that the supernatural should be left to its own devices and that we humans should stick with what we're good at --discernment and fine manipulation with our tiny fingers. And justice on a human scale.
Anyone who wants copies of Floro's literal and lengthy responses can feel free to contact me. I will happily forward them along.
Laszlo Xalieri is a Senior Contributor to the footnote.
laszlo @ thefootnote.net
This hour, 4:38 pm Good Friday, our country (due to the 1521 - 1899 Spanish colonization) is immersed in the culture of saints, images and colorful Holy Week;
I want to share this with you; but lest I be misconstrued, I do believe more in Mass and Rosary, rather than all these parades; in the seminary in 1965-1974, we were taught about Mass as center of Faith ... so our chapels are bare of saints, images, except a modern crucifix ...
Filipinos warned on crucifixions
By Frances Harrison Religious affairs reporter, BBC News
Filipinos re-enact Good Friday crucifixion
Thousands flock to Good Friday crucifixions in northern Philippines
35 Devotees nailed to the cross in Good Friday rites - 03/21/2008 | 02:24 PM
SAN FERNANDO, Philippines - Philippine devotees re-enacted Jesus Christ's suffering Friday by having themselves nailed to crosses in rites frowned upon by church leaders in Asia's largest predominantly Roman Catholic nation. Fernando Mamangon, 37, was among the first of some 30 men scheduled to go through the Good Friday rites in three villages in northern Pampanga province's San Fernando city. Five other devotees, including a woman, were nailed to crosses in nearby Bulacan province. It was Mamangon's 13th straight year for the rite, which penitents endure to fulfill a vow or pray for a cure for illnesses. In San Pedro Cutud village, the main site of the annual event, 19 people have signed up for the crucifixion, according to local officials. Another 10 are expected to be crucified in nearby Santa Lucia village. Luciana Reyes, a 48-year-old housewife, says this will be the 19th time that she will be nailed to a cross and she vowed to continue re-enacting the crucifixion on Good Friday for as long as she can.
quote:Originally posted by judgefloro SAN FERNANDO, Philippines - Philippine devotees re-enacted Jesus Christ's suffering Friday by having themselves nailed to crosses in rites frowned upon by church leaders in Asia's largest predominantly Roman Catholic nation. Fernando Mamangon, 37, was among the first of some 30 men scheduled to go through the Good Friday rites in three villages in northern Pampanga province's San Fernando city. Five other devotees, including a woman, were nailed to crosses in nearby Bulacan province. It was Mamangon's 13th straight year for the rite, which penitents endure to fulfill a vow or pray for a cure for illnesses.
Crucified for your health? It worked for Jesus!
Or we could send you guys some aspirin.
I can't believe what some Flips would do in order to prove a religious point, but when someone believes to that extent, I suppose it's only natural to enjoy the pain of having nails being thrust through your wrists and feet, then hoisted up on a cross.