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morgana
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quote:
Originally posted by Caffeine:
I know that I make emotional reactions, and actions all the time when I am on the internet. If you can't care enough about what *REAL* people have to say about you, then I feel sorry for you.

i know that somewhere in this world, you exist. i know that you have your own set of feelings, and that what i say/type has some effect on you. conversely, you do to me. but my point is that your effect on me here is not in the same sense as the "real" world. feel sorry for me all you want, your perceptions of me are obviously skewed by the fact that you know NOTHING about me, thus proving my point. even if i sent you a list of everything about myself that i can remember to record, you would still know nothing about ME. you'll never know that when i lie, it makes my ears turn red, because i'm ashamed of myself. you'll never know that when i use that certain tone of voice, it means that i'm tired, and don't want to talk about it anymore. even if i spent the next 15 years chatting with you here, you'll never really, truly "know" me. you'll have gathered alot of data, and can infer what you will, as you have just done. but that's not me.



No one really comes here looking for friends, everyone has their own reason, many of them overlapping. I am not just a name on the screen, I am a real person. Just because I know I might not meet you, doesn't mean I won't share my feelings with you, or become friends with you.


i never stated that sharing your feelings and involving yourself in an online aquaintship is bad. it's when you cross that little invisible line that it turns bad. that line, right there. see it? on this side, we're just aquaintances, feeling each other out, getting to know the other's perspectives. on the other side of that line, you would be cursing me out for saying that i don't classify you as a "friend". do you see the difference? i don't understand how people can let themselves be bothered by someone's opinions of them, when that person has very little, very controllable, contact on their lives.


People sometimes think the internet isn't as real as it is. When you type something out, real people are reading that, real people are reacting, and real people are caring



as hard as it may be for you to believe, i do take that thought into mind. i do sensor myself sometimes. mostly, i try to stick with the debates, the opinions expressed here. i try not to get personal. there's alot of stuff that people post about their personal lives that i would love to just say "god! what the fuck are you thinking?". but i don't, because my intent is not to hurt people's feelings. my intent is to prove my position. i try to hold a very neutral, logical arguement. sometimes, people post stuff that they hold close to their hearts, and get upset when i comment on it. my advice to them is, if you don't like what i have to say, don't post in a public forum. want to share with a few people in particular? e-mail them. but when you post here, you invite criticism as well as praise. so if people feel upset over it, they know next time not to discuss such matters. or deal with the fact that others here disagree.








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Nutrimentia
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of course the internet is real. Forums and chat are social interaction as much as anything. I think that it is dangerous to give too much credence to the personalities you encounter as the anonymity of the net allows people to be others so to speak.

I personally hang out here solely for the social interaction. (I suppose procrastination does play a part sometimes) But I just like to talk to people. I like discussion and just regular chitchat. I don't care too much what people say, especially if I haven't dealt with that person in chat often. It is hard enough to 'know' someone in person, and almost impossible if all you see is words on the screen. True, interact with them enough and you'll learn about their personalities. But MethodDan may think I am an asshole (and to him I usually am!). I don't know why I hassle him so much, but I can't help it and it has come to define our relationship. I am usually a pretty nice guy, easy to get along with, but not with him. The point is that the net-mediated interaction can be deceiving about personality. (or is it illuminating an aspect of meself that is usually controlled in face2face social contexts?)

Others, such as PaintChips and Tack, I talk to regularly and feel as though I know them. A couple members here I have known for years from home and have corresponded with them via the net for a long time, pretty much since email started to get big, maybe 6 years ago.

Just because discourse is governed by the limitations of your literate expressiveness and smiley emoticons doesn't mean that it isn't social or real. It is different, but only in degree, not kind.

I wonder if morgana really doesn't care about any one here at all. Maybe I am wrong, but I suspect all of us develop an affinity for some of the regulars that we often interact with. Minimally we are happy for them when something good (marriage, babies) happen and share their sorrow when something bad happens. Even though all we see are their words, the person still seeps through and that makes it real in my book.

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THE FINAL WORD

The internet IS real.
You ARE real.
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Caffeine
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quote:
Originally posted by morgana:
[/B]The internet is more than just me knowing you, it's me understanding you, me listening to you, and me comforting you. Sure it's a general statement, but it's fit for this example. When I post something, I don't really know what exactly to expect the response to be. I can only hope that I get a laugh, or learn something, or even think of something in a different way, then I did before. Many people on here that I 'chat' with in private know me better than people in 'real' life do. Why? Because on the internet we can be more open. We have nothing to prove, and not much to lose. If I gain alittle piece of mind, I'm happy!

i know that somewhere in this world, you exist. i know that you have your own set of feelings, and that what i say/type has some effect on you. conversely, you do to me. but my point is that your effect on me here is not in the same sense as the "real" world. feel sorry for me all you want, your perceptions of me are obviously skewed by the fact that you know NOTHING about me, thus proving my point. even if i sent you a list of everything about myself that i can remember to record, you would still know nothing about ME. you'll never know that when i lie, it makes my ears turn red, because i'm ashamed of myself. you'll never know that when i use that certain tone of voice, it means that i'm tired, and don't want to talk about it anymore. even if i spent the next 15 years chatting with you here, you'll never really, truly "know" me. you'll have gathered alot of data, and can infer what you will, as you have just done. but that's not me.


That is exactly why I feel sorry for you. You don't know what it's like to share something with someone else online, that is really deep and personal. When I do open myself up, I do have emotions on how the person replies to my thoughts.

i never stated that sharing your feelings and involving yourself in an online aquaintship is bad. it's when you cross that little invisible line that it turns bad. that line, right there. see it? on this side, we're just aquaintances, feeling each other out, getting to know the other's perspectives. on the other side of that line, you would be cursing me out for saying that i don't classify you as a "friend". do you see the difference? i don't understand how people can let themselves be bothered by someone's opinions of them, when that person has very little, very controllable, contact on their lives.

You should not have to censor yourself. This is a no holds barred forum! I think it's great that you have the self control to hold yourself back, but it's not needed!
as hard as it may be for you to believe, i do take that thought into mind. i do sensor myself sometimes. mostly, i try to stick with the debates, the opinions expressed here. i try not to get personal. there's alot of stuff that people post about their personal lives that i would love to just say "god! what the fuck are you thinking?". but i don't, because my intent is not to hurt people's feelings. my intent is to prove my position. i try to hold a very neutral, logical arguement. sometimes, people post stuff that they hold close to their hearts, and get upset when i comment on it. my advice to them is, if you don't like what i have to say, don't post in a public forum. want to share with a few people in particular? e-mail them. but when you post here, you invite criticism as well as praise. so if people feel upset over it, they know next time not to discuss such matters. or deal with the fact that others here disagree.






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Hedonism
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The interaction is different on the internet, but aside from a few, like Morganna, we do occassionally feel affection or enmity for the people we interact with on Asylum, #wota, and elsewhere. We become close with some people, get to know them well, and sometimes even begin to adore one or two of them.

I, for one, would rather it mean something than nothing at all. I would rather feel kinship and common ground with people on here than look at you all as tools for my own amusement. Maybe I just can't muster the objectivity to remove myself emotionally from what I read on here, but I think it's only human, to a certain degree.

Hooray for human weakness.

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The internet, or more specifically, the asylum IS my real life. I know thats bad, and its wrong that I am like that but it is true. I care a lot for almost everybody here, and even if they are just words, they do affect me emotionally. I consider some of the people here better friends of mine than anybody I know in real life. The internet is real, for met at least.

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I agree a little with everyone who’s posted. Some people, like Morgana, distance themselves from real contact with others through intellectualising everything to the nth degree, while others, like Redguard, use the vocabulary of feeling to connect with us all in a very “real” way. I’m sure Stellar appreciates the reality of a thoughtful gesture on Chantrea’s part in sending flowers during a tough time.
The rest of us seem to fall somewhere in between…and I understand what Morgana is saying about “really” knowing someone, but sometimes it’s easier to say how you’re feeling without social mores to hinder. If I think someone understands the core of me, it doesn’t seem to matter much if they know whether or not I play with my piercings if I’m nervous. There are a few people online who I would say DO know me…for better or worse, so maybe it’s a matter of how open you are in showing yourself that shapes your perception of internet “reality”.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rabble Rouser:
That's how I am. I treat people a little differently if I know them IRL, but I tend not to get upset over flames, unless I'm already in a bad mood...but then again, when I'm like that, someone could say something totally sweet to me, and I'd still rip their heads off. Usually, I just laugh at flames.






Who ever flames YOU, RR? That's the silliest thing I ever heard of. OK..the 2nd the silliest thing I ever heard...the 1st being "President Algore". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA


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No one here's flamed me (yet)...you nice people. But I've had my fair share of flames in quite a few other forums.

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Aside from the fact that I fucking hate emoticons, and the fact that there is NO WAY IN HELL I'm going to read anything said here (sleep deprivation! woohoo!) Its safe to say that the internet can affect your emotions just as well as any video game, movie or book can. I don't even see how this can be disputed. Um...ah fuck it. Word to your moms, I came to drop bombs, I got more rhymes than the Bible's got psalms, and just like the Prodigal Son I've returned, anyone steppin to me you'll get burned. Eh...this got boring too. Back to the internet. For many people, its a way of life. Fuck it, fill in the blanks yourselves, I'm spent.

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quote:
Originally posted by CAL:
I hugged JoeyCat, she felt real...

CAL


...and I am, I think.



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Princess_Chelle
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the internet is real, and so are the people you talk to.
i try to be myself here. i think im pretty true to myself.

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The connections people make through the internet are real. That is what progressive technology is all about...networking. The difference between the internet and RL is that the internet is nonconfrontational, that can be a very good thing.
It means what you make it mean.

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Paint CHiPs
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The other day, I was in a situation where I did something I probably shouldn't have in an online conversation, said some things I should not have, and then later got called on it by good online friends of mine.

I felt bad. GENUINELY felt bad about it. Not in some detached bullshit intellectual sense, but on a real emotional level. I lashed out about it, had very real emotional responses to it, and it effected me for the rest of the day (ruined it in fact, I hate being wrong and getting called on it), again, on a very real level.

The other day, Spooky tried to private message something to somebody, and instead hit "." instead of "/", and ended up saying the private message in the main channel. We all laughed at him, because the accidental snippet of conversation was obviously something personal and not intended for anybody but the intended recipient. He felt genuinely embarrased. As in, staring at a glowing box thousands of miles away, the man was blushing and shaking his head at his own mistake.

Fiend, despite what he may say here, has been driven to tears in firetalk before.

Wil Freak loses all sense of self-worth if some binary digits form to say "you are a leech".

This, my friends and neighbors, is all very real. To say that your emotions have never been effected by things you see on the internet, or interactions you have had, probably means you are lying to yourself. Or, if it IS true, how well do you connect IRL?

Granted, their are varying scales of how much this stuff is internalized for a particular user. Going from one extreme of say Wil Freak and Danielle, where it is so real it is bordering on psychosis, to the other end of the spectrum to say garycoleman and Harlequinn (and 3/4s of SPF). But even in the latter cases, I would wager that the impressions we see of these people online, while perhaps not immediatly discernible IRL, are at the core of who they are. The internet just bears that out of them better than real life does (and saves them from an ass-whooping). Not only that, but their personas on the internet feed into their psyches in real life. Otherwise, why would they bother? It has to fill some sort of void, or they wouldn't be doing it. Actions do not occur without motivation, and to say "I just like doing it get people riled up", bears the question "what about riling people up do you like, and why?"

Same goes for us all.

It has to fill some void, or at least feed some part of ourselves, or we wouldn't be wasting the time and energy, right?

What is the converse of "real"? Fake? Well, again, when you claim that internet interactions to be fake, why are you bothering? The exchange of ideas, fine, I agree that that can be the case very often. But is that really all of it? Do you not feel a sense of pride when somebody praises you for YOUR particular idea? Or a pang of anger and shame when somebody lambasts you for being a moron? I am not saying you run off and cry if faced with opposition, but I also do not believe that anybody locks their emotions and humanity away before signing on. morgana, just to pick on somebody, can you honestly tell us you have never been frustrated, or angered, or cheered up, or pissed off, by the interactions here? If so, then how is that not a real interaction?

Even those alter egos, the garycolemans and Spaceboy's (talking about SPF Spaceboys' BTW), are around because they fill a need in the user that is controlling them. I would imagine that running around as say Harlequinn does is a means of releasing the id, in a sense. Again, if the exercise held no value or worth to the person doing it, then why would they bother? And in those cases, the exchange of ideas is not a valid excuse or reason, as they exchange nothing save snide remarks meant to make other people feel bad.

And again, a strange juxtaposition of internet interaction that I have come to discover is that through the veil of anonymity is the opeing of the floodgates of truth. In 90% of the cases, the face you show on the net is in many ways as real, if not more, then the face you show in real life. Constrictions and mores or whatever may restrict some of what you show the world in real life. That fact bears out two points: 1. If the internet allows you to break free of the reigns of these constrictions and mores, then how is the face you show here not in a sense MORE real than the face you put forth in real life? 2. OR, if you DO feel constrictions and mores on the internet as well, why do you bother acquiscing to them? It would seem to me that in doing so you recognize the "realness" of internet interactions.

At your core, the internet bears your soul. I don't need to know how you blush, or the mannerisms you use when you are anxious, to get a very real sense of who you are as a person. If anything, it is EASIER to do over the net, as you don't have all the mixed signals, or bullshit posturing, or confusing body language, or whatever, getting in the way.

And as far as the interaction goes, how is this not as real as any social interactions you have in real life? If you agree with someone on the boards, you say so. If you don't, you argue. You feel pride if you do something well. You feel shame if you do not. You express sympathy when another poster is going through a tough time, you gloat when it is somebody you don't like, you get angry when somebody is wronged, and you are made happier when you read something nice, or sweet, or funny.

It's convinient to say that the internet is just a meaningless pastime to you. It is convinient to say that it is much less real than 3D social interaction. It is convinient to say you are "above" getting your emotions involved with 1s and 0s. But it is also, in all likelihood, lying to yourself to claim these things. Sure, real life social interaction has different aspects to it then net interaction. But the point is, both are interactions. Neither is above or below the other.

Just different is all.


My 2 cents.

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Hear! Hear!

Paint- you said everything I was thinking and then some. Well done.

I too think that the personality that seeps through in net-mediated interactions in many ways illuminates the person more than in person to person interactions. Even if you try to play a role, I think that can only happen successfully on the short term. If you are able to successfully play a role over a long period online, I think you are actually just being who you want to be. The truth then is that you play a role in the physical world and thus the internet is more 'real' than the 'real' world.

Chat and forums distill us down to the things we think and say. There are misunderstandings and whatnot due to the lack of physical social context. Sarcasm doesn't translate well digitally. But once you get to know someone, you can pick up on when they are being serious or not.

I once teased tack in chat and he pm'ed me, asking why I was so mean to him. He and I had played chess a few times and I felt that we knew each other well enough to cap on each other like that, but when he pm'ed me, I felt bad and apologized. Turns out he was just fuckin with me back, but since that was the first time for that type of friendly interaction, I wasn't sure if he was upset and hurt for real or not. Once we got it sorted it, now we are on equal footing and play around just as we would if we were gathered together in a physical room. We know each other's fundamental personality and we know that we are friends. That's pretty damn real to me.

One other thing I noticed about net personas. Have you ever noticed that when you read email from family and physical-world friends you can hear their voice when you read their email? I always that was kind of cool. But if you hang out in chat and forums long enough, the personalities there begin to talk on a 'voice' of their own. Obviously it isn't necessarily what the person sounds like in reality, but nevertheless there is an identity formed.

I think it would be cool if people commented on whether the people they meet for the first time at the get-together sound and act like they expected. That would help to settle this question I think.

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quote:
Originally posted by Paint CHiPs:
...everything paint said...

My 2 cents.



Don't you mean "My $198.97?"

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Hmmm, well in answer to your question, it was Fiend I first met, and no. I had not expected a tall guy with a deep voice.

Which further bears the point that we DO translate, in our minds, the digital interactions into REAL interactions (taking liberties with the word "real").

In 30 years, I fully expect people to say "Brad, I fear your real life social interactions are starting to get in the way of your online ones."

WHERE THE FUCK IS SPOOKY!?!?!!? This is like his fucking thesis or something.

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i've never been flamed! rah! heheh... but then i don't care... no, wait... i do... erm...

it's the same as real life isn't it... some people you get to know, some people you stay away from. same thing, different environment. i know i've made some very good friends here

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You smell like chantrea! (you have been flamed by the master flamer!)

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Originally posted by slappy:
i've never been flamed! rah! heheh... but then i don't care... no, wait... i do... erm...

it's the same as real life isn't it... some people you get to know, some people you stay away from. same thing, different environment. i know i've made some very good friends here





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Originally posted by Paint CHiPs:


This, my friends and neighbors, is all very real. To say that your emotions have never been effected by things you see on the internet, or interactions you have had, probably means you are lying to yourself. Or, if it IS true, how well do you connect IRL?

Granted, their are varying scales of how much this stuff is internalized for a particular user. Going from one extreme of say Wil Freak and Danielle, where it is so real it is bordering on psychosis, to the other end of the spectrum to say garycoleman and Harlequinn (and 3/4s of SPF). But even in the latter cases, I would wager that the impressions we see of these people online, while perhaps not immediatly discernible IRL, are at the core of who they are. The internet just bears that out of them better than real life does (and saves them from an ass-whooping). Not only that, but their personas on the internet feed into their psyches in real life. Otherwise, why would they bother? It has to fill some sort of void, or they wouldn't be doing it. Actions do not occur without motivation, and to say "I just like doing it get people riled up", bears the question "what about riling people up do you like, and why?"

Same goes for us all.

It has to fill some void, or at least feed some part of ourselves, or we wouldn't be wasting the time and energy, right?

What is the converse of "real"? Fake? Well, again, when you claim that internet interactions to be fake, why are you bothering? The exchange of ideas, fine, I agree that that can be the case very often. But is that really all of it? Do you not feel a sense of pride when somebody praises you for YOUR particular idea? Or a pang of anger and shame when somebody lambasts you for being a moron? I am not saying you run off and cry if faced with opposition, but I also do not believe that anybody locks their emotions and humanity away before signing on. morgana, just to pick on somebody, can you honestly tell us you have never been frustrated, or angered, or cheered up, or pissed off, by the interactions here? If so, then how is that not a real interaction?



i believe that i have been misinterpreted, and i'm sure it was my bad choice of words. when i posted that i was not affected by the goings-on of the internet, i meant it in the negative sense, as your examples show. i don't get all pissy when someone flames me. hell, i'm lucky to remember if i replied to a thread or not. but i'm not a robot. i do feel emotion. i just don't feel that i have some vital connection with you guys. i don't feel an urge to open up and share all of my hopes and dreams and all that. i do enjoy my time here, why else would i come? i understand that this place is "real", that it exists. i never argued that point. i was just commenting on the fact that too much emotion here is a bad, bad thing.






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Morgana just took my words.

I don't put on much of a facade on here. I behave on here mostly like I would in reality, though perhaps a bit more outspoken (and I would never have done all that flirting with Chantrea in person). Aside from actually speaking my mind here (whereas I'm shy as hell in person), I think I portray myself pretty well here.

Oh yeah. And Wonder was nothing like I expected when I met him. Puff was, though.

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i second that , chelle. the internet doesnt show how you scratch your scrotum or how awefully you look when you are completly drunk. but nevertheless i dont play a role. i could but why bother. "you are what you is" or something . if someone chooses to play a role it is only to his disadvantage in the long run. i believe that emotions are real even online though they are differently expressed and or may have a different value , depending on how much you allow yourself to get involved in them.beside that hate aswell as love is much stronger felt.
i dont judge people for having or not having a life in matters of online time. what counts is that they can connect.
discussion aswell as simple chitchat follows the same principles like in "reality" so i cant see a difference. aswell as you can hurt someone with one look or one sentence, you can hurt someone you dont look into the eye. you have less inhibition(sp?) online but on the other hand , people you talk to take much more than they would take in socalled reallife.
in my eyes , internet is a part of "real life" and of course real. or am i talking to and reading the answeres of a machine ?

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She tends to do that.

quote:
Originally posted by Roshigoth:
Morgana just took my words.






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quote:
Originally posted by SkapeGoat:
Internet = Matrix = Not real but seems real




this is what i think

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