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IBeFree
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Post On Death and Dieing !!!

I have a friend who has only a few days to live now ... he was a Project Manager for the company I worked for and has been battleing Cancer for about a year and a half ... I talked to him at the company just before Christmas ... and now his race is nearly over!!! ....

QUESTION: ...

If you had say one week left to live ... what would you do differently than what you are RIGHT now??? Maybe even WHY arn't you doing it NOW???

What would you keep doing???

How would you spend your last Days / Hours / Seconds (assuming you could still move about)???

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Sorry to hear about your friend.

I would go on a golfing spree. I'm a terrific golfer, so it would be a great way for me to finish out my time on earth. (Actually, when I get older, I would wish to die on a golf course. I couldn't think of a better way to go.)

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I would spend my last moments very, very high. I wanna go out like Aldous Huxley: peaceful, surrounded by friends and family, with a head full of acid. What a perfect segueway towards oblivion or the hereafter.

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Yes, sorry about your friend...and to answer your question, it depends. if i were with someone, i'd probably spend that week being with him every moment, or with my friends and family. if i didn't have a boyfriend, i would probably get myself high on as many different drugs i can without killing myself (not that it would matter at that point)

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I read a book a while back about the biggest thing people FEAR about dieing is suffering PAIN.... on all levels!!! ..

I don't fear dieing ... the mode maybe... I wouldn't want to drown.... or die burning!! ... My Dad knew he was dieing... we talked about it quite a bit... I was in Florida when he went ... in his sleep... and about 4 hours after a conversation with him on the phone.... just went to sleep... and didn't wake up...

I have so many thoughts on this subject...!!! Some rather selfish... and others just about the adventure of it... like being born into a new world after a very long sleep...

I want to die SOBER... and AWARE!!! ... not in a drug induced state!!! ...

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I feel dead now. Please talk to me about what it's like to be alive.

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GFY ... I didn't want this to be a bad thing... or a depressing subject.... dieing doesn't have to be a bummer....

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IBF,

Call me a stick in the mud, but for the love of *expletive* it's spelled "DYING"... Dieing is really hard to look at and NOT cringe...

So I was an English major. Sue me...
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dying
v.

Present participle of die1.
adj.
About to die: dying patients.
Drawing to an end; declining: in the dying hours of the legislative session.
Done or uttered just before death: a dying request.


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Oh yeah, and sorry to hear about your friend. I lost my Daughter a while back...

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Aldous Huxley's DEAD?

Fuck...

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as i have been lucky enough to cheat death 3 times whilst on an operating table after a serious attack I have strong feelings about this being a catholic what I have to say may offend some people but please no offense is intended.
as death is an important factor in all of our lives and the sooner people realise that once our life-light is out thats it, no tunnels of light there is no heaven, no pearly gates, no angels or saints and no hell with all its evilness even that couldnt be true.

I know my feelings are all my own and there are a few people in the world who would share the same opinion, but I ask you all when by english law when a person arrests on an operating table and their vital signs have stopped the hospital staff are legally required to attempt to save you for 5mins 59seconds then they must stop as the brain has stopped responding to the pulse of your heartbeat, I was brought back at 5min 32seconds
so just how far was I gone or am I still there?

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It is a depressing question in my opinion.

As far as my last hours or weeks go, I am kind of torn. On the one hand my first reaction would be that being sorrounded by friends and family while having a head full of acid would be ideal, but I'm not so sure. I think I would want to be out in nature, sober, experiencing life for the first time. I don't think being stoned for the millionth time is the way to go. I think seeing things and knowing you will be seeing them for the very last time would be a far more awesome experience then one could ever achieve with drugs.

Besides, being on acid on your death bed would very likely lead to a hella bad trip.

I also find it far too depressing a prospect that existence just ends with the heart to even consider (which is the problem of many Christians as well IMHO).

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quote:
Originally posted by Paint CHiPs:
...Besides, being on acid on your death bed would very likely lead to a hella bad trip...


I can see it now...

I'm gonna die! No relax, you always think that, but it's always ok. Wait, fuck I really am gonna die. Why did I think acid was the way to end it? This whole long journey and I end it on drugs. What the fuck? I wonder if I'll know when I am dead. Maybe I already am. The brain keeps working for a few minutes right? Feels like I am breathing though. Wait maybe I am not.. ok I am. I never pictured the end of the line as a bed in a room like this, with that fucking machine beeping in my ear. I wonder how long it will take them to have someone else in here once I am gone. Probably not long. I think I can feel the medicine from the IV going into my arm. I can feel it spreading through my veins, all over my body. Wait I am gonna die, fuck...

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quote:
Originally posted by -Anth3m-:
IBF,

Call me a stick in the mud, but for the love of *expletive* it's spelled "DYING"... Dieing is really hard to look at and NOT cringe...

So I was an English major. Sue me...



Not a stick in the mud ... I know my spelling is BAD ... it really sucks when I am tired... or in a hurry.... but believe it or not it has gotten better overthe last few years... spell check... and chatting have helped a lot.... ... DON'T enable me!!!

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I'm not afraid to die at all .. not even really afraid of the pain that might be involved. that's to say that getting into a car wreck and dying al smashed up on the highway doesn't really scare me. dying from years of painful suffering with cancer or something scares me, but not falling off a boat and drowning. this is also the front of my brain speaking. self preservation sort of takes over when actually faced with a situation where I might die though .. for example: I'm afraid of heights .. even though the front part of my brain isn't really afraid of falling to my death, that self preservation part makes my knees shake and my head fill with adrenalin.
I read someplace once that dying was life's last and greatest adventures, and upon reflection I realized that I'm going to die at some point. we all will. there's not much sense in being afraid of it.
think of it like this too .. in one hundred years every almost living thing on this planet today will be dead. look out your window and see thousands of people walking by and think to yourself, in 50 years many of these people will have died. in 80 years most of them will be gone, and in 100 years all but a handful will have met an end. it's a little comforting to know that my dying will not be an isolated event. I'll be sharing the experience with people I've never met. and that's really what it is. just another experience.
I think it was Socrates (maybe Plato) who said that he was not afraid to die because either he would die and there would be nothing at all, or he would find himself in an afterlife of some sort and he would be able to talk to all the great minds that had died before him. I guess I like that idea of thinking.
I knew a man once who had died in a scuba diving accident and was revived 45 minutes later. he told me that the process of death and dying is simple, and that even with a collapsed lung and broken ribs he didn't really feel any pain. he was reluctant to describe what happened to him after the lights went out, I think because it was nearly impossible for him to put it all into words that made sense, but he told me that for him, there was absolutely something going on after. he described to me something along the lines of a place that wasn't a place. and not really thought, but more like emotion. like when you have a dream and you can only remember how you felt, but not really what was going on in the dream. he told me that it's important to feel good about yourself and do things you enjoy while you're alive because it affects where you are when you die. he tried to get me to imagine different levels of thoughts and feelings, and try to imagine them stacked (even though he said it wasn't really how it was) .. he told me that the better you feel about who you are and the things you have done will sort of transcend you up to the more positive place (that isn't really a place) .. when he finished telling me about his experience he told me that what we had been talking about was really on a shadow of the reflection of what he had really experienced, and that although he couldn't describe in words what to expect, he said that he could give me sound advice. have fun. enjoy your life. don't worry so much about anything other than your own right and wrong. enjoy and experience everything you can.
Art (that's his name) had an author write a book about him, but I can't remember what it was called, but I think the author's name was Dr.King .. I could be wrong though. Art spent a few weeks with the guy and worked out how to put all that stuff into words I think, but I'm pretty sure Art never wanted his name used.
anyway .. I've gotten a little astray. death fascinates me (as I think it does most people) and as far as what I would do with a week to live? I would swim naked in both the atlantic and pacific oceans. I would drive my motorcycle as fast as I could through the hills, and even faster on the straights. I would walk as far as I could out into the woods just so I could fall asleep on the ground with no one around for miles. I would have sex as much as I could. I would give all my money and things to people who needed it. I would drink from the carton. I would listen to music and sing at the top of my lungs while playing air guitar. I would run and jump and climb over anything I could. I would take some time to go fishing. I would hug people. I would tell as many jokes as I could. I would try to imagine dying the way I imagine winning the lottery.
Im sorry to hear that your friend is terminal IBF .. its never fun or easy to see someone you know die. when he dies though, try not to imagine him being dead .. just gone. on his last and greatest adventure.


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What would I do if I knew I had only a week to die? Not much. Spend my time reading, see those friends and family that wish to see me. Just take it quietly...

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M/B Great post there ... I love to think about what DEATH must be like .. seems that the common thread with people who have died and returned is that "There are no words to discribe the experance" ... DO we simply lack a discription in our vocabulary... or any language...

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i'd start borrowing lots of money

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I would want to say my goodbyes to everyone, then cash in everything I own, take out a private villa somewhere, and die in serenity.

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Every day we are ALL one day closer to death.

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Oh yeah, and sorry to hear about your friend. I lost my Daughter a while back...




I am truly sorry to hear this Anth3m. peace.

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If I had a week to live I would wander into the bush with a firestarter, a knife, a bivy sack and a rifle. Never to be heard from again....


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MadBomber, that is a really excellent post there.

One of the things that I find comforting is that about 90% of people who have near death or real death experiences come out of it saying "something is out there".

But Bomber, for god's sake learn to paragraph.

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...(Actually, when I get older, I would wish to die on a golf course. I couldn't think of a better way to go.)
Bisop Herkimer:



Amen.

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I like that guy's attitude.

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I like that guy's attitude.
What about this guy? Do you like his altitude, too?



Amen.

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