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Sookee
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What a Great Guy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...b723_story.html


I probably posted this to the wrong forum

What are your thoughts ?

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Personally, I don't find that his execution was "barbaric". While it may have taken 15 minutes to finally kill him, in reality he simply just went to sleep, never to wake up.

Certainly it behooves the State to provide a faster, better way to execute someone using drugs, but I don't see where he suffered any. His children and other family witnesses certainly suffered mentally from a longer drawn out execution, but you know, they didn't need to watch. There is no legal right that any state has to let the general public view an execution.

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He should have went like Braveheart in a TV show on prime time.
I would watch all the commercials too.

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perhaps the killers' abult children should ask the pharma companies to make the drugs available, if they're concerned about the length of time.

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Since when has BigPharm cared about the safety and well being of the mases? I would think they'd be all over death drugs. Or the state could just give the condemned anti-depressants and let the offenders kill themselves.

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Swhat struck me too.

But then can't fuck us out of money for our whole lives if they kill us instantly :\

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At least no more women will be raped now.

Also: “I’m going to heaven, I’ll see you there when you come”.
Christians and their humor, eh?

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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who felt that way. I wish they'd just use a firing squad instead of lethal injection.Seems to me,it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than the drugs.

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He sees you when you come.

I bet firing squads demand all kinds of things in their work. But I think there are countries who still use them.

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Sookee
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You're probably right about that,Coin.

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These people need a bullet and every person knows it, so we let the state kill em because they won't let us do it. That's Capital punishment, and it works.

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That's Capital punishment, and it works.

It seems to be mostly used around the equator.

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We need American Jobs.
National TV this bitch.
Bring back the arena in Rome.
It would generate so many viewers.

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Eh I don't wanna watch anyone die

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So don't turn on the television, or click the video link.

Of course, I am of the opinion that if a person lives in a society that practices capital punishment, that being the executioner should be a civic dutry akin to jury duty, which any eligible voter may be called up for. Refuse the duty, lose the franchise to vote. Executions should be public, held in the most visible spot in the midst of large stadiums or sports field, and all secondary education students should be required to attend at least one as a part of their education in civic responsibility.

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I don't believe in the death penalty, "Eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" en shit. It frankly makes me sick, and Simon, are you fucking kidding me? "Let's just make killers out of anyone regardless of their moral stance on such a thing."

This man was a disgusting piece of shit, but murder is wrong, I my opinion, taking a life is something that should only be permitted or willingly done, if you are actively protecting your own or someone else's life. Vengeance should not be sanctioned by the government.

On a final note, as a human I hope that he is wrong about his place in the afterlife, as a Christian I will just leave it to god to figure out his place.

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So don't turn on the television, or click the video link.

Of course, I am of the opinion that if a person lives in a society that practices capital punishment, that being the executioner should be a civic dutry akin to jury duty, which any eligible voter may be called up for. Refuse the duty, lose the franchise to vote. Executions should be public, held in the most visible spot in the midst of large stadiums or sports field, and all secondary education students should be required to attend at least one as a part of their education in civic responsibility.



I just re-read this and I straight up can't believe that someone honestly feels this way.

What about children at home while their parents are away if we had something like this on TV, they would most definitely watch it.

"Civic duty", Where the fuck do you get off deciding what a persons civic duty is. Forced jury duty is wrong, the draft is wrong, and this make an executioner out of any poor jackass who happens to get a fucking letter in the mail is wrong a cosmic level.

Required attendance at a execution? What about people of various faiths who are or should be opposed to such things? What about the squeamish types who faint even at the sight of a little blood? What about people who just don't want to watch that shit?

Again, take your "civic responsibility" and shove it up your ass.

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Leaving out the sarcasm tags certainly wound you up.

What I posted was simply extending the logic of the state claiming the right to execute. If the state embodies the will of the people, then perhaps the people ought to be willing to own up to their responsibility for those choices. If they oppose those policies, perhaps an honest examination of what the real implications of silent acquiescence in them amounts to is in order.

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...murder is wrong, I my opinion, taking a life is something that should only be permitted or willingly done, if you are actively protecting your own or someone else's life. Vengeance should not be sanctioned by the government.


If you'd care to look around the forum, you'll find that I have expressed exactly that sentiment many times.

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Leaving out the sarcasm tags certainly wound you up.

What I posted was simply extending the logic of the state claiming the right to execute. If the state embodies the will of the people, then perhaps the people ought to be willing to own up to their responsibility for those choices. If they oppose those policies, perhaps an honest examination of what the real implications of silent acquiescence in them amounts to is in order.



If you'd care to look around the forum, you'll find that I have expressed exactly that sentiment many times.



Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Sarcasm can be hard to detect in text.

I tend to get a little worked up about people masking vengeance as justice.

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quote:
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So don't turn on the television, or click the video link.

Of course, I am of the opinion that if a person lives in a society that practices capital punishment, that being the executioner should be a civic dutry akin to jury duty, which any eligible voter may be called up for. Refuse the duty, lose the franchise to vote. Executions should be public, held in the most visible spot in the midst of large stadiums or sports field, and all secondary education students should be required to attend at least one as a part of their education in civic responsibility.


That's brilliant. Not only would it change people's mind about CP but may even stop some crimes from ever happening. Brutal though.

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That's brilliant. Not only would it change people's mind about CP but may even stop some crimes from ever happening. Brutal though.
Except, of course, that before long nobody who opposes capital punishment would be able to vote anymore.

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The per capita capital conviction ratye is vanishingly minute. Thus, the actual numbers of citizens called upon to carry out their civic duty would be correspondingly minute. What would not be minute would be the hue and cry, and one can hope, the public revulsion. Who knows, it might become great enough to remove from the state the authority to execute citizens in cold blood.

Probably not, unfortunately.

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Sookee
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*sarcasm tags*I wish I was as compassionate towards murderers as you guys. I'd rather not house,feed,provide medical care,a gym,cable TV, books, visits with family so and and so forth with humans that have been found without a reasonable doubt guilty for said crime(s).



That being said,I respect your opinion,even if I disagree,wholeheartedly.

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Well I'll be the asshole here because I'm not being sarcastic.
We are already adjusted to real deaths thru the internets with beheadings and shit.
Put capital punishment on prime time TV and what do you get?
Murderers?
Again,read my second sentence.
No.
We will get kids watching this and that's actually a good thing.
Because maybe they may say something like "there is no way I'm going to end up there".
I mean fuck.
Jail to the "urban street kid" is already regarded as a test to your manhood.
Let them watch people actually getting torn apart by tigers and shit then maybe something deep inside their heads will click and they may never ever consider doing wrong.

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Well I'll be the asshole here because I'm not being sarcastic.
We are already adjusted to real deaths thru the internets with beheadings and shit.
Put capital punishment on prime time TV and what do you get?
Murderers?
Again,read my second sentence.
No.
We will get kids watching this and that's actually a good thing.
Because maybe they may say something like "there is no way I'm going to end up there".
I mean fuck.
Jail to the "urban street kid" is already regarded as a test to your manhood.
Let them watch people actually getting torn apart by tigers and shit then maybe something deep inside their heads will click and they may never ever consider doing wrong.



There are old west towns all over America that serve as museums to the times of cowboys and train robbers. Visit one sometime. Back then public executions were the order of the day, and so was murder.

The death penalty is not an effective deterrent.

"torn apart by tigers", Sensationalizing the death of an "evildoer", is in it self an evil act.

I would not want to see America or any country use Rome as a model for "Justice", we are supposed to progress, not devolve, as time goes on and we learn lessons.

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