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Roshigoth
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A life of restrictive isolation, forced imprisonment, and externally controlled segregation from personal liberty is unnatural and thus, less humane than death.

Sure. Ask a convict which they'd prefer. While I'm sure you'd get a few takers, I suspect the vast majority would take prison.

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Sure. Ask a convict which they'd prefer. While I'm sure you'd get a few takers, I suspect the vast majority would take prison.


a life form cannot be asked what is most important about its existence.

we are simply programmed machines.

10 "you" = live
20 "you" = eat
30 "you" = rest
40 if "you" = live then "you" = reproduce
50 if "you" = live + reproduce then go to 10
99 end

the individual life form will cling to life at the expense of all other things because its programming tells it that by achieving line 10 it will go on to line 20

you are REPROGRAMMING life by locking it in a cell and controlling which lines get executed

it is UNNATURAL

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What's "unnatural" is not a good basis for determining what's acceptable. Besides being a vague term that can be twisted into whatever meaning you want, the vast majority of our lives can easily be considered unnatural. Unless you're ready to go back to living in trees and dying from infections caused by minor injuries, your life is going to be largely unnatural.

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"unnatural" is far more quantifiable than "acceptable"

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quote:
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It's not cost effective.
Also it's less humane.



Lol, Venezuela.

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"unnatural" is far more quantifiable than "acceptable"
Nice dodge. I wasn't trying to replace unnatural with acceptable, just point out that "unnatural" is hardly a sound basis for designing a penal system (or really any system in society).

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Lol, Venezuela. ...


LF, before you hitchhike (free) down to Caracas and commit a coupla felonies so you 'n' your family can get a free vacation at a posh Venezuelan prison resort, read this:

"...Venezuela’s prisons are infamously violent, corrupt and overcrowded. There have been a number of recent riots and fires in correctional facilities across the Andean nation, which has 48,262 total prisoners -- with an official capacity of 16,539.

La Sabaneta prison, which the late President Hugo Chávez called “"the gateway to the fifth circle of hell," has just one guard for every 150 prisoners and gangs run protection rackets, forcing inmates to pay unofficial dues for anything from a place their beds to protection from murder.

Since Varela’s appointment in 2011, more than 500 inmates have died and nearly 2,000 have been wounded.

The San Antonio prison is allegedly run by a drug trafficker called Teofilo Rodr_guez, alias "El Conejo," or "Rabbit," and the prison itself has earned a reputation across the country for being well-armed and lavishly decorated with a palm-tree lined swimming pool and a cock fighting ring, according to a report by the Latin American news website InSight Crime. ...
" From here.

Amen.

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Some of the factors to consider when deciding the best way to deal with crime:

Nationality
Economy
Bloodthirst

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Meet Wenseslao Moguel:



Here's a paragraph from wikipedia.

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He eventually died from a mosquito bite.

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El Fusilado finally got the coup de grce.

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Arrow Alva Campbell

Ohio scrapped the execution of Alva Campbell on Wednesday after failing to find a viable vein for the lethal injection but the state plans to try again in two years.

Prison officials had been warned about Campbell's extensive health problems but said they were confident they could carry out the execution.

They provided a wedge-shaped pillow to help him breathe during the procedure, but it was problems with his veins that caused the issue. The team tried for about 30 minutes to find an injection site before the execution was called off, according to media witnesses.

Campbell's attorney said his client was overwhelmed by the experience. ...
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Overwhelmed? Really?

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They want to kill him with kindness.

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He went to the courthouse to pay a traffic ticket. A simple thing, really -- $95 for a burned-out headlight on his red 1992 Chevy S-10 pickup truck.

But Charles D. Dials, 18, who quit high school to get a job to support his mother, brother and sister, was the classic case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. On April 2, 1997, Dials was pulling out of a parking space on Fulton Street when Alva E. Campbell Jr. charged out of the back of the Franklin County Courthouse, armed with a 9 mm handgun he had taken from a deputy he had overpowered.

Campbell carjacked Dials and forced him to drive around for three hours before he pulled into a South Side parking lot. Minutes later, Dials was dead on the floor of his truck, two bullets in the back of his head. ...
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Campbells new execution date is June 5, 2019.

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Everyone has an execution date. It happens to be the same date that they got married. They just didn't know it.

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And cruel and unusual punishment is supposedly malum prohibitum.

Like lambs to the slaughter.

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POOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

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Poop goes the moop.

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Slurp goes the soup.

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Since you mention it, do you know if Wyatt Earp had a slurp after he shot a perp?

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Well I do know that Al Capone had a bone of his own, and he owned a phone and ate corn pone, and had a loan when grown, Tony.

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You mean Al Capoop, dontcha?

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