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I bet you'd be struggling too, if LF was your father.

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You racists cunts, its a cultural thing. Pinoy always struggle, just ask Imelda Marcos.

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When I see the Philippines on a map, I feel a tinge of jealousy. You'd have to extremely stupid or catholic to fuck that place up.

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Let me see if I've got this right, grasshoppa:

1. Your son makes "a decent salary";
2. His wife "makes decent money too", but;
3. They're still struggling.

If I have that correct, please share specifics as to why they are struggling, though they're both gainfully employed with good incomes.

And, to be sure we're on the same page, I understand your use of the word "struggling" means they often have too much month at the end of the money. Yes?

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I actually don't know what my daughter in law makes. But they are struggling because my daughter in law is trying to save her mom and dad's house.
She basically moved in with them and pays half the mortage. And son can't stand to live there so he moved in with a childhood friend and 5 other people so the house payment among the 6 of them is way low.
And as a Husband I completely get that he helps his wife out too.
This is what I'm talking about here JEB.
My kids may be making decent money but it doesn't guarantee a decent living when people you care about is not.
And that's why I do understand the Republican mind set of being fucking tired of paying for everyone's shit.
But you know,the money taken out on taxes every paycheck goes to military and war and giving to other countries and giving subsidies to corporations that don't actually need it a whole lot more than what goes to keep people in welfare.
So they really got that part wrong in my mind.
Yes I do judge my in laws as to why they need their daughter to save their home.
And I won't go into details because some of my judgement is pretty unfair.
But when our society is struggling we simply have to do something about it.
Not try to sweep low and middle class Americans under the rug and blame everything on them.
And that's why I'm no longer Republican.
My son and daughter in law are not legally separated btw. They still get together and she stops by my son's place a lot to also get away from her parents.
But you do for people that you love.
And I really shouldn't be judging as much as I think it's okay to do so in this case.

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So fuck all you guys hahahahaha!

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So fuck all you guys hahahahaha!

It may sound reactionary, I know. But we can all feel it. We've changed the way we think of ourselves as citizens. We don't think of ourselves as citizens in the old sense of being small parts of something larger and infinitely more important to which we have serious responsibilities. We do still think of ourselves as citizens in the sense of being beneficiaries--we're actually conscious of our rights as American citizens and the nation's responsibilities to us and ensuring we get our share of the American pie. We think of ourselves now as eaters of the pie instead of makers of the pie. So who makes the pie?
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Something has happened where we've decided on a personal level that it's all right to abdicate our individual responsibility to the common good and let government worry about the common good while we all go about our individual self-interested business and struggle to gratify our various appetites.
” ~ David Foster Wallace.

Amen.

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One source of the pie is from the earth. We mine it. Its 'owned' privately yet can not be owned. Some of the pie, is made of that.

At some point in time, we changed from hunter gatherers to owners. But you have no ability to return to hunter gatherer in any real sense of that existence. This society makes it possible for some to benefit immensely, while others must just exist. That society demands a poor, a bottom rung. And everything in between. Its just a reality of economics. I dont need to explain why there must a be a bottom rung do I? Society, the very existence of it, is another source of the pie.

The pie exists and its the balancing act, the dampener on the gap, the not quite an equaliser but a buffer of fairness that makes society possible longer term. The inevitable end without it is rebellion and anarchy, communism, or corporatism. Capitalism can only work while there is a direct means by which the gap can be narrowed to levels that keep the masses in place and content with it. If you like, you ca call it the pie.

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Jeb I get where Wallace is coming from. But I still believe all the takers are a minority.
We have more honest working Americans out there busting their butt and struggling than those living off of someone with government assistance.
What we see on TV does not represent the majority.

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... The pie exists and its the balancing act, the dampener on the gap, the not quite an equaliser but a buffer of fairness that makes society possible longer term. ...

I call that dampener "opportunity".

I think you might like this quote:

"The future of America is not an entitlement. We have been given a treasure chest of gifts and opportunities, but some people are being left behind, and success is not sustainable unless it is shared." ~ Howard Schultz.

Amen.

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JEB has realized that his own thoughts are inadequate to describe these things.

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No need reinventing the wheel if something's already been said as well as it can be said.

Amen.

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You could easily invent a more fitting analogy than reinventing the wheel.

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Why Bernie is wrong about...well...everything.

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You could easily invent a more fitting analogy than reinventing the wheel.

Jeebus H. Christ, you lazy Dane. Must I do everything?

Amen.

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"I love Denmark. But it is a very safe place, and it is easy to let the state look after everything for you." ~ Agnes Obel.

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I am also infatuated with the idea of Bernie Sanders for president, but this world is so much like a bad, conspiracy filled comedy film, it looks like that racist bald bitch might win... What's her name again?
Dona Tramp?

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In what way is Donald Trump Racist?

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I think he means ILLEGAL immigrants. And for the record the only thing Trump has recommended regarding illegal immigration is that we enforce existing immigration laws on the books. Pretty radical, huh?

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It takes balls to speak to Christians in the most conservative college in the United States.

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"I like Mexico. I love the Mexican people. I do business with the Mexican people, but you have people coming through the border that are from all over. And they're bad. They're really bad," he said. "You have people coming in, and I'm not just saying Mexicans, I'm talking about people that are from all over that are killers and rapists and they're coming into this country.”

Can we attempt to go back in time as ask the natives of this land how they felt about the murderous, rapist Europeans that came here and took everything?

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I don't have to provide examples to show how this guy is just so ''intolerant''.
If you know who he is, even barely, you shouldn't even have to ask that.

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Populists always have awkward supporters.

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I dont know, I can read that as saying AMONG the people coming across the border illegally, are killers and rapists. However, its caged in that, some of my friends are X, I know plenty of X's type of thought bubble. The mans too rich, bound to have been surrounded by yes men for too long, god complex, all the trimmings of obscene wealth so he is eccentric as all fuck. I think theres a window in the mans soul and its not good, but he isnt saying all Mexicans are X.

He is saying that a leaking border poses problems they dont need.

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