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You seem to be following this one closely, JEB. When it first hit the news I didn't really care. Some dumb fuck does some dumbfuckery, not really that earthshattering. However, it piqued my interest with how it played out of the end. I speculated as to why it went the way it did. I couldn't see much reason for the actions taken other than that the powers that be were trying to avoid a powderkeg. When did Americans become pussies? This whole race thing will come to a head eventually.

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Well, since there are only approximately 14 million blacks in the USA I don't think things "coming to a head" is in their best interest.

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Hey, you're all Americans. The rest of the world sees it as an American problem. So it's really telling (and interesting) when you say it's not in "their" best interest. The fact that the country as a whole can't seem to focus on what's good for America and resorts to us and them mentality is one of the first things I'd be wanting to address if you want to MAGA. The USA seems to be at its best when the country is united in hatred of some sort of foreign threat, rather than when it turns on its own.

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Actually, I don't think we are all Americans anymore. That's the problem. Well, that and the fact that Americans, like the majority of the rest of humanity, are dumber than a bag of hammers. LF is sadly not unique.

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But it doesn't take a genius to work out that splitting the baby in two has never been a good solution :/ It's not just that people are dumb, they're also not very nice. I don't have to go too far back in my ancestry to shake a few cannibals out of my island nigger tree, and while the practice may be frowned upon, the mentality is still prevalent today. We just don't value the lives of those who aren't part of our tribe. More than that, we'd actively harm them to make ourselves feel cosier. We suck. Global warming is probably nature's way of getting rid of us because we just haven't really worked out as a species. Until we can own that and stop looking to those different from us as the cause of the problems in society, we're not going to make much progress.

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You seem to be following this one closely, JEB... .

Hey Muff, I’m on the road right now. I’ll be back when I can give you a proper response.

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You seem to be following this one closely, JEB. ...This whole race thing will come to a head eventually.

Okay, I’m back. Muffy, it isn’t just this case. I am reading Hate Crime Hoax by Wilfred Reilly. A couple of bits from HCH should shed light on my interest. This first is from the inside flap:

Has the election of Donald Trump ushered in a new era of racial hatred in our country? How else to explain the frightening wave of hate crimes that began in November 2016?

The correct explanation, actually, is that there is no wave of hate crimes.

In reality, America is a dramatically less racist society today than in the past. In fact, as Wilfred Reilly conclusively demonstrates, the only spike is in hate crime hoaxes. ...


This is from the Introduction:

...It is taboo to say this, but it must be said: The novel theories of subtle but pervasive racial prejudice—“white privilege,” “cultural appropriation,” and so forth—are complete nonsense. And many of the hate crimes cited in support of those theories never happened. ...

As for Smollett, everything I have seen to-date strongly suggests a hoax followed by special dispensation. But, I am keeping an open mind.

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As for Smollett, everything I have seen to-date strongly suggests a hoax followed by special dispensation. But, I am keeping an open mind.

Amen.


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I think that's exactly what happened. I'm iinterested why. He's not really popular enough for his celebrity status to attract such a dispensation (which isn't unheard of), nor did there seem to be much in the way of public pressure to just let it go. That leads me to think that the powers that be in that area were more worried about the whole race issue. I've seen that happen in NZ and it doesn't lead anywhere good. Unless you have a fair and balanced approach (no one is above the law, not Presidents, not smolletts) and there is sentencing parity with rapey white kids and I was standing about looking black, black kids, it's not going to get any better. But hey, this approach was certainly novel.

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Nice to see you, too, Muffy. 😘

Beneath all this is Chicago’s long-time reputation for corruption. It’ll be interesting to see what spins out from this. Stay tuned.

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I think I'd find plain old corruption preferable to where my mind went.

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I think I'd find plain old corruption preferable to where my mind went.

Blame it on Porncricka.🤓

In the meantime, this is the freshest Smollett poop I could find:

...Fox recently announced that the upcoming sixth season of Empire would be its last. Daniels tweeted earlier this month that "Jussie will NOT be returning" to the show.

Daniels said he hopes to continue the story of the Lyon family in another series. ...
”. From here.

Do you recall whether Lee Daniels’ “last season” announcement was made before or after Smollett’s incident?

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Not to my recollection (although it's not a show I follow). I did read something somewhere indicating the other cast members didn't believe him and were a bit surprised when, after he got away with it, he still seemed to want to spin his little story. I suspect the failure to recast him is quite telling of where their beliefs lie.

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“...beyond embarrassed”

Yeah. I don’t watch it, either. That said, my sense of it is that most of the cast, et al, will take whichever side/position they think is most beneficial to their respective images. I note Lee Daniels walked back his previous support:

When Jussie Smollett said he was the victim of a racist and homophobic attack on January 29, Empire co-creator and executive producer Lee Daniels made an impassioned statement in a since-deleted video on Instagram, saying it was “just another f*cking day in America.”

Now that Smollett has been publicly accused of orchestrating the attack, Daniels told Vulture he regrets rushing to judgment.

“I’m beyond embarrassed,” he said. ...


From here.

It certainly got quiet after the docs were unsealed. 😉

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Uh-oh:

A Chicago judge appointed a special prosecutor on Friday to investigate Cook County state attorney Kim Foxx’s handling of the investigation into Jussie Smollett’s alleged hoax hate crime.

Judge Michael Toomin said that Foxx’s unorthodox decision to drop all charges against Smollett absent an admission of guilt was within her authority, but suggested that her decision to hand the case over to her top deputy was improper. ...


From here.

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It's like an episode of Billions. I would start munching popcorn, but I find that, as I get longer in the tooth, the experience has become rather unpleasant as the kernels stick in my gums.

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Billions? I haven’t seen that show, but I damn sure get popcorn stuck in my teeth. 😬

As for Smollett, I’ve done my best to keep an open mind. But, everything thing I’ve seen thus far points to him being a really inept hoaxer.

The noose video that just hit the news outlets doesn’t play well for Smollett, IMHO. The story also notes he googled himself a whole bunch in the days following his performance.

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Billions is brilliant, IMO. Intelligent writing, slightly fucked up and offensive. Not remotely wholesome though, so it won't be everyone's cup of tea.

I 100% agree with your assessment of Smollett's guilt and his abilities. I saw the video and, yeah, it doesn't help him. If his acting in Empire is as bad as his play acting at being a victim, then I'm glad I never bothered watching the show.

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... I saw the video and, yeah, it doesn't help him. If his acting in Empire is as bad as his play acting at being a victim, then I'm glad I never bothered watching the show.

Lordy, Lordy, Lordy ... the video hits just keep a-comin’:

...Jussie Smollett and the Osundairo brothers had multiple close encounters -- all caught on camera -- BEFORE the alleged attack went down, but the outcome of those encounters is puzzling. ...

From here.

All the looming boomeranging of Smollett’s legal problems aside, I think he’s dangerously close to the point of no return. I’m talking about forgiveness, redemption and, hence, rehabilitation of his public image.

I’m not familiar with his personal finances. But, unless he’s rat-holed a good chunk o’ change, has a generous benefactor(s), and/or has other means of making a living, he’s standing on a banana peel, looking over the edge of a financial cliff.

Perhaps he’ll end up living in a cardboard box on a street in San Francisco. But, if he did, people would suspect it’s another hoax.

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I hope they reopen the case and put that fucker into jail where he belongs. It's a total miscarriage of justice if he gets away with this.

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It’ll be interesting to see if Lady Justice ultimately wins out.

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I really hope so!

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Not much happening atm. I don’t see what’s really news worthy about this:

LaSalle County State's Attorney Declines Request for Appointment as Special Prosecutor in Jussie Smollett Case

When I read the headline, it suggested in my mind that other prosecutors aren’t wanting to touch it. Then, I read the story and it’s a classic nothing burger, so to speak.

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It's funny how they can commit county resources when it serves their career interests to do so, but not when it looks like a bit of a political boobytrap.

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Well, it’s quieter for now, but it’s still moving forward:

CHICAGO (WLS) -- A Cook County judge is getting closer to picking a special prosecutor who will investigate the decision to drop all charges against "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett.

The Chicago Sun Times reported that Judge Michael Toomin has already ruled out some candidates. The also reported that several Illinois state's attorneys have already turned down an offer, citing costs and time constraints. ...
”. Full story here.

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