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Posted by oxsan on 09-10-2002 11:54 PM:

What's In A Name?

A whole damn bunch let me tell you. I'm mad at the continents and countries and people in them because they cannot keep their
names of their cities and people straight. Looking at it on a continental basis I'll give a grade to each of the continents--except the Antarctic Continent--it doesn't count.

Europe (including Scandinavia, Russia and UK)----------B
America and South America---------------------------------- A
Africa--------------------------------------------------------------D-
Asia and the whole Far East----------------------------------F
Australia and New ZXealand----------------------------------A

Europe would have been an A if the Russians hadn't got all mixed up with St. Petersburg then changed it to Leningrad then back to St Petersburg. Then there was Stalingrad. And now we have Russia split into Belarus and Ukraine and Georgia and Tajikistan and Uzbekistan but at least they were just reverting to their provincial names.

America and South America have done fairly well. I can't think of any people or cities that have changed names politically except maybe Truth or Consequences, New Mexico which used to be something else but changed its name because they liked a radio program. British Honduras did change to Belize.

I gave Africa a D- but it probably should be an F. I was just easy on them because they were after all beset with all this colonialism and just went on a naming spree when they got their freedom. Well, OK, but some of them should have got over it sooner I spent a very pleasant day in a town in Chad called Fort Lamy once, now it is called N'Djamena. Upper Volta disappeared entirely and became Burkina Faso with its capital Ougadougoo
which sounds to me like a Ford Model T horn. Congo has disappeared and become Zaire and then changed back to Congo.
Africa just barely deserves the D-.

Asia and the Far East is the Worst and gets an F. I could handle Peking changing to Beijing but consider that noble savage I used to call Genghis Kahn. He first became Jenghiz Kahn. Voltaire pushed for Gengis Kahn and Gibbon put in for Zingis Kahn. Scholars today tell us that Chingiz Kahn is more correct unless you want to be very correct and use the Pinyin system and say Qingis Kahn----all of the names above being pronounced Genghis Kahn. But to top it off that fine old gentleman ( in my day--now considered a thief and crook) Chiang Kai-shek must now be called Jiang Jieshi.

Australia and New Zealand get an A +. They didn't change anything.

Things like that bother you?

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Posted by Dingle on 09-11-2002 12:26 AM:

i read in national lampoon a few years ago about a South Carolina town who's residents were petitioning to change the name of "Nigger Skull Road" to something more PC. I would imagine they succeeded, but I can't find any reference to it on google.

edit: i found this regarding Nigger Skull Mountain in N.Carolina but I don't think this is it because I read about it many years ago, and i'm pretty sure it was Nigger Skull Road
http://cgi.citizen-times.com/cgi-bin/story/news/30594


Posted by mmmtravis on 09-11-2002 12:34 AM:

Even old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why they changed it, I can't say... people just liked it better that way.

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Posted by J E B Stuart on 09-11-2002 05:31 AM:

Re: What's In A Name?

quote:
Originally posted by oxsan
. . . Things like that bother you?

Oh, it can be a pain-in-the-ass tryin' t'keep up. I visited Leningrad back in 1985 and, as you point out, it's reverted back to St. Petersburg.

What really chaps my ass, however, is the practice of contemporaneously naming new government installations, projects, etc. after local politicians. For example, here in my area alone, we have a Vo-tech school and a reservoir named after a U.S. Congressman. This practice stinks to high heaven; the permanent name-recognition advertising is worth its weight in gold. In this vein of thought, the postal service (with rare inadvertent exception) has the best policy -- nobody gets his/her face on a stamp unless deceased. That's the way it oughtta be all the way around.

That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it.

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Posted by skalie on 09-11-2002 09:31 AM:

Re: What's In A Name?

quote:
Originally posted by oxsan

Australia and New Zealand get an A +. They didn't change anything.



Well New Zealand did go by the name Aotearoa (Land of the long white cloud) for a good while.

Still does in certain circles.

I'd lower the European rating a little, especially when language conflicts arrive on the scene, Gent/ Gand, Liege/ Luik depends what part of Belguim you are in as to what to look out for on the road signs.


Posted by philjit on 09-11-2002 10:37 AM:

Sir I must protest.

Europe (including Scandinavia, Russia and UK)----------B
Asia and the whole Far East----------------------------------F

Please lump these two together under the title Eurasia and lower/raise the grade accordingly. I may appear to be being catographically pedantic, but you are giving two much credit to one and not enough to the other. I don't want people calling me a teachers pet now. It would be so uncoool for me to have to carry a B around with me and damage my credibilty. I implore thee to reconsider. We on the western side of the eurasia plate are not that deserving I assure you.


Posted by Dacarlo on 09-11-2002 12:50 PM:

Arrow

quote:
Originally posted by Dingle
i read in national lampoon a few years ago about a South Carolina town who's residents were petitioning to change the name of "Nigger Skull Road" to something more PC. I would imagine they succeeded, but I can't find any reference to it on google.


I couldnt find anything on this either, but I did find this...


There's some really dense people out there.

Fuck it. Cant paste the google cache links so I'll just copy it here.

(Originally lived at http://www.celine.nu/lists/alt.musi...02-03/1053.html )
"To Whom it May Concern:

Nigger is a LOT more than just "COLOR"!

Many geneticists say that the fecal colored parasites should be
classified as a different species from Homo Sapiens which was
originally used to refer to White Humans and was synonymous with
"europaeus". The vast differences between Humans and niggers is so
distinct that in the case of any other animal, their classification
would warrant even different genera. Massive evidence from geography,
anatomy, genetics, physiology, comparative dentition, linguistics,
archeology, and fossil records from bone-bearing sites verifies
pre-sapiens racianation." Homo erectus was divided from the nigger
even before evolution into Homo sapiens stage. While the Caucasoid
species (Humans) was evolving in Europe, the nigger was already
standing still on the evolutionary plane and is today more than
250,000 years behind Humans in skull and brain development. In
addition to their lack of intelligence and savage instincts numerous
obvious physical differences exist between Humans and niggers.
The nigger skull, in addition to having a smaller brain volume and
thicker cranial bones than that of the Human, is prognathous; i.e.,
the lower face projects forward, in the manner of an animal's muzzle.
In consequence, the nigger jaw is substantially longer, relative to
its width, than the White jaw. A feature of the nigger lower jaw is
its retention of a vestige of the "simian shelf," a bony region
immediately behind the incisors. The simian shelf is a distinguishing
characteristic of apes, and it is absent in Humans.
The skin of the nigger is thicker than a human's in the way it impedes
the penetration of germs and in its protection from the ultraviolet
rays of the sun. The fecal color of the nigger is due to melanin
pigment which is spread through every layer of it's skin and is found
even in it's muscles and brain. A dentist can tell a niggers tooth
from a Human's at a glance. Niggers have arms which are longer,
relative to body height, than those of Humans. This feature, together
with their much thicker cranial bones, gives niggers an advantage over
Humans in swinging through trees and butting heads.
The skeletal and muscular peculiarities of nigger's lower limbs have
given them considerable success in jumping up and down, but have left
them incapable of swimming. The niggers hair is black, crispy, and
"woolly" in texture, it is flat and elliptical with no central canal
or duct like the hair of Europeans. It's nose is thick, broad and
flat, often turned up nostrils exposing the red inner lining of the
mucous membrane resembling other apes. The arms and legs of the nigger
are relatively longer than a Human's. The humerus is shorter and the
forearm longer thereby approximating other simian forms. It's eyes are
prominent, iris black and the orbits large. The eye often has a
yellowish sclerotic coat over it like a gorilla.
The nigger has a shorter trunk the cross-section of the chest is more
circular than a Human. The pelvis is narrower and longer as it is in
an ape. The mouth is wide with very thick, large and protruding lips.
Nigger skin has a thick superficial horny layer which resists
scratching and impedes the penetration of germs. The nigger has a
larger and shorter neck akin to that of anthropoids. It's cranial
sutures are more simple than in the Human type and close together
earlier. It's ears are roundish, rather small, standing somewhat high
and detached like the simian form.
The nigger is larger from the pelvis down and the Human more
powerfully developed in the chest. The nigger's jaw is larger and
stronger and protrudes outward which, along with lower retreating
forehead, gives a facial angle of 68 to 70 degrees as opposed to a
facial angle of 80 to 82 degrees for Humans. The hands and fingers are
proportionally narrower and longer. The wrist and ankles are shorter
and more robust. The frontal and paraxial bones of the cranium are
less excavated and less capacious. The skull is thicker especially on
the sides. The brain of the nigger on the average is 9 to 20% smaller
than Humans. It's teeth are larger and are wider apart than in Humans.
The three curvatures of the spine are less pronounced in the nigger
than in the white and thus more characteristic of an ape. The femur of
the nigger is less oblique, the tibia (shin bone) more curved and bent
forward, the calf of the leg high and under developed. The heel is
broad and projecting, the foot long and broad but slightly arched
causing flat soles, the great toe is shorter than in a Human. The two
bones proper of the nose are united, as in apes.
SOME OF THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OF NIGGER GENETICS INCLUDE:
1 Smaller brain, physically less area to store and retrieve data.
2 Less developed higher brain, the brain stem (old brain) reportedly
is used more in blacks than in any other race, this portion of the
brain operates by instinct, higher brain processes need not be
involved. (This explains their need for immediate gratification,
without regards to consequences)
3 Prone to Hypertension and Cardiac diseases- Niggers have a
significantly higher rate of hypertension, CVA's and diseases of the
myocardium.
4 Higher count of sweat pores- causes increased offensive body odor,
making detection by prey easier
5 Less papillary aperture range- decreases night vision significantly.
In infancy there appears to be similarities between niggers and Humans
but as both species mature their vast differences become pronounced.
There is no greater calamity than the assimilation of niggers into our
social and political life. We can never attain the advanced
civilization our fathers dreamed of, with millions of an inferior
alien species among us, whose assimilation is neither possible nor
desirable."

Sincerely yours,

The King of Trolls, Sir William McFuckpants
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Posted by Leroy Binks on 09-12-2002 02:12 AM:

Don't forget about Burma becoming Mynmar.

Oh, and I'm sure the aboriginies called it Austrailia too, huh?


Posted by Caffeine on 09-12-2002 02:30 AM:

Now I must download some TMBG.

It's your fault we have internet piracy.


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