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CzEcH rEcK
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What would you do.....?

I'm working in the biggest shit hole you could imagine. Yes it's door work (Bouncer for you less educated heathens.)

Anyway. I've had to not only battle the dirty shit cunt side (The pseudo gangsters who shot at me last week) but the governor too. they are all taking the piss, and every week he's twisting the screw.

Now I know you are all going to say walk away, let it lie... But I've put my name to it, so I won't. call it stubbornness but thats the reason they got me down there, because no-one else could deal with the shit there.

I had to hurt a good friend of mine 2 weeks ago and I know he'll look at me differently from now on, but the way I look at it is if you take a liberty, expect retribution.

It's like a little fucked up drug/gangster/bunch-of-cunts economy... But thats where I live. They'll shake you're hand with the left, and stab you with the right.

Please dont patronize me and tell me you make you're own bed and lie in it.

Any constructive replies are welcome.

The rest... well start another thread to gain points, because I need good advice.

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Burn down the club.

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CzEcH rEcK
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quote:
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Burn down the club.


HAH!!!!!!

You read my mind.

But seriously This place is my only source of income, and my emploies who look to me for their wage.

So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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I would continue to work there and, during the day, try to see about gaining favorable employment @ another place. There are restaurant and club owners that continuously look for exceptional doormen. There was a documentary out 3-4 years ago that included some of the best doormen from the US and abroad. Believe me, If you're trained in disciplines and know you are a valuable commodity to any business that would require your assistance, I'm sure (at least for now) that you can find yourself a better door to stand in front of now: Giving you the time to sort out what priorities you want out of life and a career. They say that sometimes, the grass is greener on the other side. Maybe it's worth a look for now. Maybe down the line you may wound up going to Chiropractor school and be making over 100K/year or you can be a personal trainer. Who knows: The beauty of it all is that sky's the limit...and you can do it at your own pace. It's obvious, however, that you need to get the fuck out of the door you're working in front of ASAP. It's no good being shot at and/or being forced into a situation that you had to deal with one of your buddies outside of work. Work is work; personal life is personal life. When it starts gelling together, that's when someone's throwing shit in your fan.

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ignatz mouse
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I don't have any constructive advice to offer, unless it will be possible, eventually, to set up shop in a safer location and keep the loyal employees you trust. Czech, you're a smart, funny man and a good writer. Seems like your person is in constant, serious danger just trying to survive. You have the resourcefulness, good sense, and determination to improve your circumstances and preserve your health and safety. Fucking Soon.

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Straightman
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Going with the thought that firearms were illegal to possess in London, it is only natural that most, if not all, clubs are probably without hand held metal detectors. I would suggest investing in some of these little gems.
(I'm presuming, of course, that no one shot at you in the club, but it's still nice to know if someone's bringing a piece through the door.) from this point on, I would adopt a zero tolerance attitude. You fuck up,(and this includes ignoring any instruction given by security personel, mouthing off, etc.) you're asked to leave ONCE. If you are unable or unwilling to find the door, someone will be more than happy to assist you. I also suggest that all of the security personel leave at the same time, so no one walks to their vehicle alone. Also, I'm presuming that you are not the owner, so make sure the owner understands that security decisions are yours and should be upheld by him as well.(I worked in a club where the owners would turn their heads to disruptive, violent, and sometimes illegal behaviour by a patron if they were "buddies", and I would have to apologize for asking them to follow the rules.) If this is ever the case, and the owners let their pals take run of the place, there is really no other logical option than to walk away. Best of luck Czech, it's a shitty job that every asshole that's ever seen "Roadhouse" wants to do, but that no one that has actually done it enjoys.

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P.S. A police presence is never a bad thing. If you can get the local cops to walk through from time to time, that would discourage a lot of idiots.

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Look for a job elsewhere. Go for being a bouncer at a posh club. Or one where lots of ecstasy is taken, cos people on pills only want to hug, not fight!

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Straightman speaks sense. I am just a bleeding unicorn heart. slappy is a smarty-knickers too.

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If you looked more like Patrick Swayze you could work in nicer clubs.

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CzEcH rEcK
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quote:
Originally posted by Straightman
P.S. A police presence is never a bad thing. If you can get the local cops to walk through from time to time, that would discourage a lot of idiots.


Fuck the police, they are the worst of the bunch.

I'll tell you a little story. 5 months ago I was working with a tight crew.
There were two coppers outside being kicked all aroung the shop by about 15 blokes. We went out on some misguided sence of loyalty and fucked the lot of them up to save these slags.

Now a few weeks later we had to smash the club we was working in because the local "Gangsters" got above their station. Of course with all these people, they'll make shooting gestures at you, but call the police with their free hand.

There were about 40 police officers there in seconds, and the one I looked and grimaced at was the cunt we saved from spending a few weeks in intensave care.

I have no time for those cunts.

Straightman, Firearms are illegal to possess in the whole of the UK, But I have one. Why?
Just..... In....Case.

It's why we have better kevlar vests than the police.... Because we meet the worst of the worst.

And sometimes you need to equal youre adversary.

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couldn't you make a living boxing and not get shot at? you'd still get to kick ass and deal with gangsters.

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That's fair then. If the cops are more part of the problem and not the solution, then I agree...fuck 'em.
But the other measures still apply. If you're packing, cool. But a patron of the club shouldn't be. I still wish you the best of luck. You and I both know that things will get worse before they get better. I.E. you'll probably be bashing some faces in before a good majority figure out that your club is not the place to go to be a twat. Hang in there brother.

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quote:
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you'll probably be bashing some faces in before a good majority figure out that your club is not the place to go to be a twat. Hang in there brother.


This seems pretty sound to me. In fact, I would accept that it's going to be this way and start bashing. What I mean is institute a scorched earth policy. Somebody crosses the line, burn their fucking world down- in front of as many other potential offenders as possible. And do it early in the evening while everyone is still sober and in touch with their fear.

but I don't know shit about shit.

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Start slinging dope at the front door in front of God and everybody....catch the paying customers coming and going....Sounds like the kind of place where it would be socialy acceptable....If anyone gets in the way of your little enterprise knock their fucking teeth out and then put the boots to them. Get your inside crew to drive business your way, or vice versa you drive all the traffic to one of your inside mates.

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Transfer your skills to a different market:

http://www.google.com/search?q=pers...uards&hl=en&lr=

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Re: What would you do.....?

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because no-one else could deal with the shit there.

Any constructive replies are welcome.


Sounds to me like your boss is fucked, tell him to play ball, or you and your boys should walk.

If your that good at door work, do like someone did in our local town, and contract out to all the clubs and pubs in the area, hes now got the monopoly on the town and is bringing in a small fortune each week....without even having to work a door himself now.

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