I have a customer who is building a brand-new enterprise network, and some of their execs want to use Firefox in place of IE. Only problem is, the execs who actually make the decision are not particularly impressed with Firefox.
They asked me to write up a justification statement, based upon the usability and security of Firefox: something along the lines of "It has these 100 features that IE7 lacks."
When we had this discussion, I said to them, well, Firefox has this Live Bookmarks feature that makes it easy to keep track of the fifty or so daily-read websites I follow. Their response is "Why can't you just go to each site?" They are the kind of people who visit 3 sites per day--they wouldn't use most of the features, so I'm having a hard time making a compelling case for FF like the customer asked.
... and why should it matter what browser is usd to access it ?
When I was doing web development one of my bosses just couldn't understand why I made websites that worked in Firefox but broke when viewed in IE, when IE held 80 percent of the market. ( I'd forget to debug them sometimes for IE )
My answer was, if it works in Firefox it works everywhere, except for IE that is, web standards and all that.
He never got it.
Tell your "brand-new enterprise network" makers that if you embrace Firefox that it will eventually make it easier to adapt that network to the new generation of media players, or other such bullshit.
quote:Originally posted by Thimbles worth of opinion Because IE forces you to upgrade the operating systems on your IT infrastructure if you want to have the latest supported IE version, with all the latest features and security bug fixes.
latest features no one uses and security fixes that no one cares about or understands
Multi-platform is perhaps most helpful to me, but I guess not to your clients.
In practice, they may be better off with IE, to be honest. As for TWOO's point about upgrades, presumably your clients are going to patch and upgrade their windows boxes regularly anyhow. Also, if you can't provide them with reasons that are compelling for their planned usage, I wouldn't push it religiously, because if anything goes wrong with FF in their system (there are some ASP.NET features that work with IE7 and not FF, I think, for example; are they planning any intranet stuff based on those?), you'll be the one associated with it and they won't really know why they're using it except they'll remember that you pushed them into it.
The big issue has to be the security one, but it seems to me that you can run a network with IE7 as the default browser and do it securely (not my area of expertise, but it appears that people I know manage that). Obviously, FF has better standards compliance as a rule, but lots of people write their sites, regardless, to work with IE (and as a result they may not work so well with FF) anyhow, because of the relative numbers of those browsers being used.
Now are they set on using firefox? Or are they looking for a reccomendation?
These guys are total idiots,no?
Make it a game.
Have 4 identical computers on the table....laptops.
Have IE in one,Safari,Opera,Firefox in the other ones.
Now have them find an identical website whatever that may be..the company website and see which computer pops up first.
Do this to a few web sites. Try to get something from China see who hits first.
Go to youtube and see which one loads the video faster.
Then these idiots can make their own goddamm minds.
I'll look when I get home, although another possible way around it is to go to about :config, right click and add a new boolean value called "extensions.checkCompatibility", without quotes, and set it to false. Restart FF/Minefield.
Seems to let ABP work fine, although if you've got any other extensions sitting around you might want to disable them first.
The trick works with todays nightly and ABP 0.7.5.3.
The addons are turning out to be a turnoff for the customer because of the rate at which they update.
Not that that's an issue. They have a good patch management solution in place, they can roll back changes if they don't like them, etc.
The problem is they have conflated this nervousness about FOSS, which basically comes from their bewilderment with the very idea that people would do this shit for free, into all sorts of "legitimate" objections.
My favorite is that "Well, if anyone can see the code, then anyone can make an exploit against it." "Ok, but that also means holes are patched quicker. Look at the vulnerability window." "Uh...well...but..."
So they have basically said something to the effect of "These add-ons update too rapidly, we can't keep up with the changes." Keep up with what? It makes no sense and this is why I don't think I can convince them to use anything FOSS.