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It's done with mirrors by the looks of it.


Could be casting by the looks of it.

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#1's easy, #2 has me puzzled.

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Somehow the sheet metal was made into a parallelogram before it was cut then when made into a square again the pieces lined up. And this cannot be done with paper because paper wouldn't give....wait. Maybe it can.
Shit.

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Laser cut from a single block perhaps.

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I figured it out.

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Behold the solution.

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Good work. I thought slicing meant cutting.

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Thanks. They meant slicing horizontally. It obviously HAD to be cut.

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One error in my diagram, however, I omitted the vertical cuts on the right of each top strip.

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Fixed.

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If you averaged their weights you'd have two decent ones.

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Sorry, Troll.

"Sliced" means cut, period. Try again.

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Simon, just because you were stumped, doesn't mean I was. The fucking thing is made from a single sheet and it has holes in it. How do you suppose those got there without it being cut? Face it, yet again, I am right.

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Aluminum melts readily, and the info says nothing to indicate it was not so cast.

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What part of "one sheet of metal" escapes you? As for aluminum melting, I must remember that the next time I someone using it to cook with on a hot gas stove.

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It's possible that it was indeed cast, but the mold would have had to be very similar to my cut pattern, remove as quickly as possible, and allowed to contract in the way I suggested. I'll give you that, but you had no idea, so I win.

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No, in fact, there is no real need for it to have been cast as shown, final shape. There is nothing said about bending or polishing it, so it could have been cast with the cross arms neither touching nor contiguous.

As for cooking? Normally done at much, much lower temperatures than smelting and metal forging, unless you are even stupider than I think.

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As T_T doesn't understand the thermal expansion of aluminium, which incidentally is .000023 per degree Celsius, a 1 meter bar will grow 2.3 mm if its temperture increases 100 degrees C, the above sheet is only 40 ish cm so wont expand enough to make TTs solution plausible.

The correct solution is ..... cut it at an angle, then heat the corners and bend it into a rectangle. If you look at the picture, you can see a slight distortion where the bending took place.



Puzzle solved.

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In which case the information provided is false.

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This might get messy.

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In which case the information provided is false.


What part do you think is false?

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As T_T doesn't understand the thermal expansion of aluminium, which incidentally is .000023 per degree Celsius, a 1 meter bar will grow 2.3 mm if its temperture increases 100 degrees C, the above sheet is only 40 ish cm so wont expand enough to make TTs solution plausible.

The correct solution is ..... cut it at an angle, then heat the corners and bend it into a rectangle. If you look at the picture, you can see a slight distortion where the bending took place.



Puzzle solved.



Awesome. So, I was close. And Simon wasn't even in the same country, nor even beginning to grasp the premise of the puzzle or the different between cutting and slicing as it pertains to aluminum puzzles.

Thanks, DRZ, for the answer, the vindication, and further evidence that Simon could't solve the Aluminum Puzzle #2 and I did...almost.

Take THAT, ya one-handed, non-solving solve failure.

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I must say that I'm surprised the corners don't display more stress. A brilliant puzzle for brilliant people (not Simon).

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That's my solution, not necessarily theirs. But I believe it's the most plausible, casting would obviously work too, but it'd be muuuuuuuuuuuuch harder.

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