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euphorbia
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hey europe, remember the euro?

the discussions? anger? the debates?well these are the same problems we are having now with the federal government. every state was supposed to be an entity. some of our states have economies as big as some of your countries, you had a problem mainly with your monetary system, well our liberals love money...and mostly who doesnt have it, even if their higher echelon does, and their subjective values on who they think should have it (as long as you dont take it from them). how ever they are also using the federal government to push on all of us their subjective ideological (proven failed) policy and any one who disagrees with them are judged "subhuman" worth being stolen from, imposed upon, enslaved and even deemed unlawful and worthy of imprisonment. obama talks pretty to these stupid little shits, and their mass makes them feel superior. tyranny of the masses is whats going on, coupled by a spoiled president twat who loves declarations (oh but shante, these guys did this and this...well none did it in more encompassing ways than obama, no one changed this country and diminished the consitution & individual in so a few moves. clinton had approx 300, bush approx200 something even after 911...but those were minor, when obama did it, he did it in such unconstitutional ways that he is facing treason accusations....as he fucking should. there is no more extraordinary people allowed here, honor student? good at sports? no, youre a dick if youre any of those things deserving of being stripped of any reward 9unless youre a dancing monkey 9hollywood). no parasite a is all you get to be....damage many people because you feel morally superior (though merit is inferior)...thats where we are eurpoe...there is no more moving out of state, these sacks of crap gave the power to the feds...now we all get to live in their failure.

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I'm having a hard time deciding what dressing to go with that word salad.

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I'm having a hard time deciding what dressing to go with that word salad.

Nothing nutty, its got enough of that already. Vinegar is also in ample supply, as is lemon.

Youre right. Id skip the salad.

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some times just saying you dont have the capacity to understand makes you a better person...like me and panera bread. no sir, i didnt like it.

maybe you need cartoons?


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some times just saying you dont have the capacity to understand makes you a better person...like me and panera bread. no sir, i didnt like it.

maybe you need cartoons?



Well, its better than the aforementioned poop sprawl over your padded cell walls.

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Well, its better than the aforementioned poop sprawl over your padded cell walls.



no body mentioned michelle obama

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Well, its better than the aforementioned poop sprawl over your padded cell walls.



nice you have a sig my great grand ma said before you were ever anyone's cunt shart. I do enjoy the classics.

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nice you have a sig my great grand ma said before you were ever anyone's cunt shart. I do enjoy the classics.

Must have been an old world saying that died out due to conservative christiantard 'politeness' and other such right wing foolishness. My grandfather taught it to me when I was a youngin.

You never know, we might be related.

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Must have been an old world saying that died out due to conservative christiantard 'politeness' and other such right wing foolishness. My grandfather taught it to me when I was a youngin.

You never know, we might be related.




well my family were infamous cajun drug smugglers, enemies of government...and i can barely understand you from government cock deep throating you...and im agnostic, my family native and celtic old teachings...so, and im sure youre used to being wrong, but wrong chick twatty mcgee. I can make you a mojo hand, or read your palm, im gunna guess it says youre a twat...even my agnostic powers cant over come that.


I heart ghandi...love joan & ayn too...be the change you fucking tyrannical ideologue.

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Gandhi.

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Gandhi.



the "h" gets me excited....pardon.

i pushed it to the front. with out merit...thats my liberal moment for the decade.

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Friend of Hitler, who started WW2, which made EU.

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Friend of Hitler, who started WW2, which made EU.


erm. then came von braun. one liners get old.

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Europe was made into a union in order to avoid another world war.

Denmark had some referendums. In the 1992 one Danes said no to that shit. Then politicians made some ornaments and found four exceptions - like no Euro - and then a majority voted 'OK, if you insist'. It was pretty ugly.

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Europe was made into a union in order to avoid another world war.

Denmark had some referendums. In the 1992 one Danes said no to that shit. Then politicians made some ornaments and found four exceptions - like no Euro - and then a majority voted 'OK, if you insist'. It was pretty ugly.




so now make any of the states denmark...but put it under the tyranny of the masses. witch burning, 3rd reich, inquisition. am i exaggerating? only if you forget the early days.
if you impose and dehumanize in the name of ideology, steal their liberties, rights and personal property...whats the fucking difference? the name of the subjective thing you feel its ok to do it under? fuck all of you. get the fuck away from me or mine. we didnt take from you, dont take from us.

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well my family were infamous cajun drug smugglers, enemies of government...and i can barely understand you from government cock deep throating you...and im agnostic, my family native and celtic old teachings...so, and im sure youre used to being wrong, but wrong chick twatty mcgee. I can make you a mojo hand, or read your palm, im gunna guess it says youre a twat...even my agnostic powers cant over come that.


I heart ghandi...love joan & ayn too...be the change you fucking tyrannical ideologue.


Do you hoard guns... and beans?

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Do you hoard guns... and beans?



thats none of your business.

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so now make any of the states denmark...but put it under the tyranny of the masses. witch burning, 3rd reich, inquisition. am i exaggerating? only if you forget the early days.
if you impose and dehumanize in the name of ideology, steal their liberties, rights and personal property...whats the fucking difference? the name of the subjective thing you feel its ok to do it under? fuck all of you. get the fuck away from me or mine. we didnt take from you, dont take from us.


As far as I remember, Americans got the fuck out of Europe so kings couldn't take their stuff. Turned out later we all live on the same rock

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As far as I remember, Americans got the fuck out of Europe so kings couldn't take their stuff. Turned out later we all live on the same rock

The fairy tale is Americans got out of Europe to avoid religious persecution, but the reality was they wanted to persecute. The religious freedoms of Europe were too much to bear.

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It really depends upon which group of immigrants you are talking about, and where they came from. Many groups did in fact emigrate to avoid persecution. Some few made the choice because they felt that the rejection of their doctrines by the dominant groups in their society constituted persecution, in that refusing to believe as they did 'infringed' on their liberty.

Most, however, came for the lure of land which they could own. European nations mostly had rules of primogeniture in the inheritance of land, which meant younger sons had no prospects of ownership. The Scandinavian countries, especially Sweden, had rules of division of estates that subdivided lands to the point that they were often no longer viable economically. The Scots were forced off of traditional clan holdings by the lairds consolidation of control, and the rent laws, while the Irish were driven into abject poverty or immigration by the Englidh seizure laws, and the anti-Irish codes that barred their church, their language, their legal system, and their rights to practice many professions.

Basically, there were probably as many reasons to emigrate as there were emigrants.

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The title seems to indicate some sort of cross-pond topic, yet the initial post seems thorougly domestic.

Is it a monetary subject, states rights subject?

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It's a euphorbia subject.

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I heart ghandi...love joan & ayn too...


Funny thing about Ms. Ayn Rand- perhaps the most misinterpreted author since Nietzsche. Sure she championed individual initiative, but I think she'd have been appalled by modern libertarians and Tea Partiers- people who look to money and commerce as its own end and justification. Her philosophy praised wealth merely as the expression; the byproduct of productive achievement, whose most common manifestation during her coming of age in the fifties was actually triumphs of architecture and engineering. These days most Libertarians who extol Rand wouldn't know how to change a light bulb, and even if they did, they'd rather pay someone else to do it.

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You lost me at "philosophy".
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Ummm...plum.

She was born and raised in Russia, and came to this country at the age of 21. The Fountainhead was published in 1943, and Atlas Shrigged in 1957, when she was 52 years of age.

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Rand advocated reason as the only means of acquiring knowledge and rejected faith and religion. She supported rational and ethical egoism, and rejected ethical altruism. In politics, she condemned the initiation of force as immoral and opposed collectivism and statism as well as anarchism, instead supporting a minarchist limited government and laissez-faire capitalism, which she believed to be the only social system that protected individual rights.


She 'came of age', in most ways of looking at things during the early years of the Bolshevic revolution, in the center of that movement, St. Petersburg. She was one of the earliest female matriculants to the Petrograd State University, graduating in 1924.

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