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skinny
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Ask whatever you want her, direct or indirect, but you need to answer the question....not six months later or with some sort of generic court room "no comment" just answer it...


With the truth, or just don't answer and make yourselves look like fools !!! You delinquents thought you'd got away with it then didn't ya!!!

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I'm getting mixed signals.

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Poorly writen first post by me.

I was trying to start an open forum where there is only qestions answered without a load of bitching and moaning taking over...yeah, i know, shit and hopeless idea!!

such as, who is hosting this place come end of febuary?

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Good question. Why does it matter to you?

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Tuba

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What, you cant figure out why people would want to know? Are you Autistic?

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Who hosts this place has never significantly mattered, other than the minor restrictions Macker put on his hosting (no porn to be loaded to the image archive, hot link it) and the obvious one of not posting illegal content. It isn't likely to matter in future.

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Who hosts this place has never significantly mattered


That's not exactly true. A host has sysadmin authority. A sysadmin has absolute power of life and death over everyone and everything on the host, including the admins, founders, owners, etc. That matters.

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You spelled A-l-l-a-h wrong.

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Exactly. If virtual reality were reality, sys admins would be the equivalent of Gods.

In a corporation, the sys admin has more power in IT than the CEO.

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Well, in a corporation that has a CEO, it is likely that he has a leadership team that has a CIO, if the corporation is listed on the stock exchange then it must conform to SOX regulations. Long story short, accountability is carried all the way up to the CEO, and therefore the sys admin may have power but it is limited to standard business practice or it is gross misconduct.
Where standard business practice is by way of rules and thus controlled by the corporations highest officer, the gross misconduct may be initiated by the sys admin but will definitely come with rectum-stretching consequences on order from the same dude.

So, the sys admin may have power, but like anything within a corporation, it is limited by the hurt that the leadership can inflict.
In many cases, even the CEO is rendered legless by the board.

At the end of the day, the asshole on the board who wants a bigger yacht is the guy who has the power.

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quote:
Originally posted by SimpleSimon
Who hosts this place has never significantly mattered, other than the minor restrictions Macker put on his hosting (no porn to be loaded to the image archive, hot link it) and the obvious one of not posting illegal content. It isn't likely to matter in future.

Yeah you badly miss the point. The point is whether or not members feel confident the hoster will continue to host as Macker has, and if that should end would they be reliable enough to provide adequate time to move it, as Macker has. See the last 4 or so posts above.


Ill repeat, if the creators of this site are behind the curtain now, then its no ones business but theirs and this is not a democracy. If as it appears to be, they are not involved int he process, then as caretakers, you probably should be more open, and anyone trying to take those reigns needs to accept that or step away. They too would at best be caretakers, not owners. If they think differently, then they can not be trusted with the role. This remains true even if the owners/creators never return.

Of course you can choose to do it your way, and stuff everyone else. Roll the dice and force people to bet it all on your choice, but that would also clearly demonstrate you are not suited to the position you hold.

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Apparently your reading comprehension is sadly lacking. I have repeatedly said that the hosting issue is being addressed. Those so doing are entitled to their own decision of what to divulge, and when (if ever) to do so, about that process. I know what is being done,and by whom, but I am not at liberty to reveal that information at this time. I repeat, again, I am NOT personally involved in any way in the arrangements.

So, in the absence of definitive information being made public, please continue in your fervid imaginings.

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Why the secrecy?

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On my part, because (as has long been my practice) if someone tells me something while making it clear it is for my information only, I don't divulge that information. I decline to speculate of the reasons of others for their decisions in this matter.

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quote:
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Good question. Why does it matter to you?


You're not supposed to answer a question with a question, but in the spirit of the thread I will answer yours.
The answer to my question matters to me because Id like to know the Asylum will survive after next month, also I don't believe you know?

Yeah I know, believe what you want yada yada yada..

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quote:
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Apparently your reading comprehension is sadly lacking. I have repeatedly said that the hosting issue is being addressed. Those so doing are entitled to their own decision of what to divulge, and when (if ever) to do so, about that process. I know what is being done,and by whom, but I am not at liberty to reveal that information at this time. I repeat, again, I am NOT personally involved in any way in the arrangements.

So, in the absence of definitive information being made public, please continue in your fervid imaginings.


Hold my hand dickhead, Ill help you along.

Either an original owner/creator is involved in the process and has decided the path, in which case its not hard to state that much without divulging specific detail about who and why etc. At which time it becomes clear to all that the path will be what it is, and that is as it should be. And you are accountable for any lies you might be telling about that.

Or, a third party is being handed the keys, by persons that have the position that facilitates that handover, but not the ETHICAL (remember those ethics you used as an excuse in the last 24hrs) clearance to do so.

Those two scenarios above, are the only two possibilities here. Either an original owner/creator is involved, or they arent. Fuck me, no one is asking for social security numbers here, but a clear statement from those with control and knowledge about where its headed, is in order. However if a third party is the one providing the hosting, that should not be a decision made by the few, in secret.

How fucking hard is it to either admit youre handing it, or allowing it to be handed, to a third party or that an original owner/creator is here, directing the flea circus?

You do realise in order to function, to have a chance at continuing along, which lets face it why bother with rehosting it if its doomed by your actions, the members have to have confidence in the administrators choices. And clearly, thats strained now. Trust me is far from acceptable, its clear very few active members trust you. This is not helped when you not only scoff at, but encourage the misinformation and the environment that breeds it. If in the end, people come to the conclusion that Troll is the wizard or fat controller, how long do you think this place will last? How fucking irresponsible are you and your 'ethics' if that is not the case, but perceived to be anyway?

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quote:
Originally posted by SimpleSimon
Apparently your reading comprehension is sadly lacking. I have repeatedly said that the hosting issue is being addressed. Those so doing are entitled to their own decision of what to divulge, and when (if ever) to do so, about that process. I know what is being done,and by whom, but I am not at liberty to reveal that information at this time. I repeat, again, I am NOT personally involved in any way in the arrangements.

So, in the absence of definitive information being made public, please continue in your fervid imaginings.



Is there such a word as fervid?

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fer·vid
ˈfərvid/Submit
adjective
intensely enthusiastic or passionate, especially to an excessive degree.
"a letter of fervid thanks"
synonyms: fervent, ardent, passionate, impassioned, intense, vehement, wholehearted, heartfelt, sincere, earnest; literaryperfervid
"fervid protestations of love"

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Thanks, now you youre getting the hang of the thread!!

So who is going to host this site? haha

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SS, has the phantom hoster stated why "its" person doesnt/can't be shown?

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Personal privacy.

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Probably an incognito version of Macker.

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Personal privacy.


Is it going to stay that way after the end of February, and will you remain as a admin?

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Probably an incognito version of Macker.


Personally, knowing Macker as I dont, he wouldn't give a fuck if people knew or not...

EDIT: Macker = Troll

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Is it going to stay that way after the end of February, and will you remain as a admin?
Cannot answer either question, as I do not know. If asked (or told) to step aside by competent persons, I'll happily do so. Coincidence and DRZ don't qualify too ask.

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