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Cockney_Rebel
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If I despise...

...an ideology, how can I be considered as racist? Anyone can blindly follow a faith but, you can not change the colour of your skin. So, if I condemn an ideologically based religious belief system that absolutely anyone can adhere to, what exactly has that got to do with your racial background? It's just fucking laughable that if you condemn Islam that you are considered a racist. But such is the way of things in this country and in this day and age.

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It is all part of the Islamic methodology when expanding their ideology. It uses the laws and sensibilities of the target host nation against that nation to gain footing then dominance. Europe is getting an object lesson in this strategy. Sadly, other than going all Draconian, there is no way to turn the tide that is washing over much of the western world.

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Then again, why listen to me? I've only been right about everything so far. It's hard being right all the time.

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There is one fundamental problem with the right wing, if we suppose their cultural alarmism is warranted.
Everytime it looks like they have a point, some racist lunatic will pop up and shit all over it - and the right often have to defend it, to not look soft.

There is unfortunately a direct line from fair criticism of islam to white supremacy. We can thank all the loonie islamophobes for this.
And christians of course, for their seal of approval on metaphysical nonsense.

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I doubt I'll be alive in the next ten years. To be honest, I couldn't care less.

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10 years? You puss.

Get a disease that can kill you at any time.

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Theophobia isn't as catchy as Islamophobia, anymore than Genophobia is of Homophobia. In the West we have an irrational fear of admitting the truth about almost anything, if that means there's even the slightest chance it will cause negative affects in our lives. So we micromanage aggressions caused by guilt to the point of having to channel them into subcategories, thus creating new phobias that are not only redundant, but abstract. Logic and reason are no longer relevant in an abstract, other than to conveniently validate bias.

SJWs, regressives and extremists are the inspiration for those behind the scenes, who are writing the next chapter of our infinity. The second coming of Christ isn't supposed to be understood in a literal sense, it's only through abstract understanding this prophecy becomes self-fulfilling. "You" and "I", the atheist and agnostic are to Armageddon as the two witnesses are to Tribulation. Prophecy isn't supernatural, it's necessary evil, as many will literally burn in the depths of the abstract. Whereas my father loaded you with a heavy yoke, I will add to your yoke; my father disciplined you with whips, but I will discipline you with scorpions. -1 Kangz 12:11

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Re: If I despise...

quote:
Originally posted by Cockney_Rebel
...an ideology, how can I be considered as racist? Anyone can blindly follow a faith but, you can not change the colour of your skin. So, if I condemn an ideologically based religious belief system that absolutely anyone can adhere to, what exactly has that got to do with your racial background? It's just fucking laughable that if you condemn Islam that you are considered a racist. But such is the way of things in this country and in this day and age.


too often the 2 things do go hand in hand though

it doesnt help that the people who are mobilising the protesting about islam are frequently backgrounded in NF and C18 and suchlike

i think the attitude to criticism is changing though, across a broader section of UK society

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Fingers crossed for a race war.

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When you condemn an entire group of people you are condemning even the good ones. Yes something like 99.990 percent or some shit wish that ISIS would simply vanish.
Same thing when it comes to condeming Christianity because there is a significant number of Christians that are Liberals and condemn what the Republican party has done. And there are also independents that actually voted for the Jewish Carpenter.
So when a person is considered a "racist" it's really a general term to mean a person that stereotypes an entire group of people negatively. You would not be considered racist if you condemn the individual for his bad deeds. Unless you use racial language against said person.

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Grasshoppa? You gonna write a rulebook for racists?

Amen.

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If humans didn't stereotype, there would be no way to process information and we wouldn't survive or thrive. Within races and cultures, if a group of individuals behave in a way that no other race or culture does, then some judgement is warranted, even though the particular group may be a minority. They do not exist in a vacuum; their behavior has its roots somewhere in the remaining population.

During WW2, Japanese soldiers in Singapore grabbed babies from civilian mothers and flung them in the air to catch them with their bayonets, for fun and sport. No other nations soldiers stooped to such demented depths of depravity- not the Russians, not the Germans, the Americans or British. Sure, not all the Japanese soldiers did this, but the fact remains that ONLY the Japanese did.

In Black Africa, Black people are the only ones who take kids accused of stealing food, beat them and drag them into the street in broad daylight, put tires around their necks, dowse them with gasoline and light them on fire. Then they cheer and celebrate while they watch them burn to death, knowing full well that burning is the most agonizing way to die.

Again- not all black Africans do this, but ONLY they do. You don't see this happening anywhere else on the planet.

The same goes for moslems with their suicide bombings...you CAN judge people based on race; not only can you, but if you want to protect yourself and your family, you ought to, even though everyone within a race doesn't behave the same. This isn't racism- racism is perception that has no basis in fact; if it is a fact some amongst a race behave in a way that some amongst no other race does, then that's not being racist; it's being observant.

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quote:
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If humans didn't stereotype, there would be no way to process information and we wouldn't survive or thrive. Within races and cultures, if a group of individuals behave in a way that no other race or culture does, then some judgement is warranted, even though the particular group may be a minority. They do not exist in a vacuum; their behavior has its roots somewhere in the remaining population.

During WW2, Japanese soldiers in Singapore grabbed babies from civilian mothers and flung them in the air to catch them with their bayonets, for fun and sport. No other nations soldiers stooped to such demented depths of depravity- not the Russians, not the Germans, the Americans or British. Sure, not all the Japanese soldiers did this, but the fact remains that ONLY the Japanese did.

In Black Africa, Black people are the only ones who take kids accused of stealing food, beat them and drag them into the street in broad daylight, put tires around their necks, dowse them with gasoline and light them on fire. Then they cheer and celebrate while they watch them burn to death, knowing full well that burning is the most agonizing way to die.

Again- not all black Africans do this, but ONLY they do. You don't see this happening anywhere else on the planet.

The same goes for moslems with their suicide bombings...you CAN judge people based on race; not only can you, but if you want to protect yourself and your family, you ought to, even though everyone within a race doesn't behave the same. This isn't racism- racism is perception that has no basis in fact; if it is a fact some amongst a race behave in a way that some amongst no other race does, then that's not being racist; it's being observant.



isn't that kinda beside the point?

islam is a belief system. if you disagree, fundamentally with a belief system it runs that you fundamentally disagree with it's adherents, every single one of them. and rather than attributing their behaviour to stereotypes you are attributing their behaviours to THEIR STATED BELIEFS, which, provided you are suitably informed on those beliefs, is a perfectly legitimate thing to do

if someone holds beliefs that you find genuinely abhorrent, and let's be honest, there's loads in islam that is fucking abhorrent, that's a perfectly reasonable view.

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Speak for yourself. I meant every word. (That said, given how much time you spend on this site, I wouldn't expect you to take anything seriously).

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