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Easy. They’re in all the men’s restroom stalls in Grand Central Station. I edited out your contact info from the pic because that woulda made it spam.

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Hey, keep the faith if you want, but you are going to realize at some point you were wrong. Or I will. So far I have seen no evidence to convince me of anything except the fact that the science supporting it is shit. At the end of the day, I don't care beyond the distraction this climate scheme causes that results in REAL ecological disasters getting less attention than they deserve.

LF is a cretin, but you're a smart guy, Fubar. I'm surprised that you've been taken in by this myth. Meh, I guess everyone needs religion of one sort or another and, make no mistake, AGW theory is a religion. It's effect on the credibility of science as a whole has not been positive. It will take decades for science's reputation to be fully restored and that can only begin when this ridiculously flawed and arrogant theory is dispensed with. Who knows how long that will take given the stupidity of your average human?

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I go where the data lead me. Your very strong opinion is not data, and it isn't even reminiscent of critical thinking. In fact, it smells very similar to the average right or left wing voter whose world view is based on CNN or Fox headlines.

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GFY, you mention buying a row boat. Get more imaginative. Today's coastlines are beaches, swamps, deltas, and forests. Tomorrow's coastlines are roads, curbs, ditches, building foundations, structures, forest remnants, parking signs, power poles, and sewer pipes. 112 million people live along the U.S. east coast. Let's say something like 1% of those people live on the beach and 5% live in probably affected areas. 600,000 people live in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale alone. The Puerto Rico migration after hurricane Maria was about 130,000 people and that was a strain on Florida by itself. The potential number of people migrating inland is a national security issue. It's not about boats. It's about private property and refugees.

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Would it be better if I took the rowboat out of my living room and sold it and then moved to a mountaintop?

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Hey, keep the faith if you want, but you are going to realize at some point you were wrong. Or I will. So far I have seen no evidence to convince me of anything except the fact that the science supporting it is shit. At the end of the day, I don't care beyond the distraction this climate scheme causes that results in REAL ecological disasters getting less attention than they deserve.

LF is a cretin, but you're a smart guy, Fubar. I'm surprised that you've been taken in by this myth. Meh, I guess everyone needs religion of one sort or another and, make no mistake, AGW theory is a religion. It's effect on the credibility of science as a whole has not been positive. It will take decades for science's reputation to be fully restored and that can only begin when this ridiculously flawed and arrogant theory is dispensed with. Who knows how long that will take given the stupidity of your average human?



Can you provide sources refuting the assertions of the IPCC? Where are you getting the idea that climate change theories are flawed and that CO2 is not a contributing factor? That shit's been figured out since the early 1900's.

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Can you provide sources refuting the assertions of the IPCC? Where are you getting the idea that climate change theories are flawed and that CO2 is not a contributing factor? That shit's been figured out since the early 1900's.


I find it so hard to believe that he denies global warming that I have to believe there's just some part of it he objects to, but is confusing not liking an idea with that idea not being true because it isn't liked.

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People can find sources for anything. Means nothing.

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Any thoughts on AOC’s Green New Deal? I confess I have not read it.

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I've looked at it but haven't studied it. She's against air travel, for one thing. She wants more mass transit and no gasoline cars. The cost is in the trillions. But the United States can't save the planet by itself.

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Any thoughts on AOC’s Green New Deal? I confess I have not read it.

Amen.



I haven't read it. I'm skeptical of a freshman representative's big ideas. Lot's of noise making and popular wave riding. If she can keep it up for 5 or 10 years and the gears of government don't grind her down I think she'll be worth some attention.

I think the IPCC is a more respectable place to look for policy ideas.

https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/upl...olicymakers.pdf

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As it says, " International cooperation is therefore required to effectively mitigate GHG emissions and address other climate change issues." I totally agree. The United States has to be part and parcel of a world effort.

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AOC is, without a doubt, the dumbest person ever elected to Congress. Her ignorance is almost beyond description. I figure she ran for office because she wasn't smart enough to wait tables.

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I go where the data lead me. Your very strong opinion is not data, and it isn't even reminiscent of critical thinking. In fact, it smells very similar to the average right or left wing voter whose world view is based on CNN or Fox headlines.


Wrong again. However, it doesn't matter because the climate will do what it wants regardless of what humans do. Earth will be just fine. We are highly likely to go extinct before we attain the ability to affect the climate. I would love to hear what "data" convinces you that Global Warming is real though. Surely, you should have no problem sharing an example of the abundant evidence out there.

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Wrong again. However, it doesn't matter because the climate will do what it wants regardless of what humans do. Earth will be just fine. We are highly likely to go extinct before we attain the ability to affect the climate. I would love to hear what "data" convinces you that Global Warming is real though. Surely, you should have no problem sharing an example of the abundant evidence out there.



I've shared it here, but I guess the mods have blocked you from seeing it. That's the only explanation I can think of.

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https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

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NASA? Lol.

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Oooookay.

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OK, I am done with this conversation. I remain skeptical and some of you remain true to your faith. That makes for an impasse and place where civil human beings agree to disagree. So I say, believe what you wish and I will not believe as I wish. Someday in the not so distant future mankind will have the answer to the climate issue. I'll be able to admit my error if I am proven wrong, will you?

That's all I have to say about this until science returns to the accepted methods that served it so well for so long, where proof trumped consensus everytime. See you when the ice age starts.

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You guys should do some looking into NASA sometime. I did and it was an eye-opener. Or you can just believe.

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The following is from:

https://skepticalscience.com/NASA-retirees-letter2.html

"Now in January of 2013, a group of 20 "Apollo era NASA retirees" has put together a rudimentary climate "report" and issued a press release declaring that they have decided human-caused global warming is not "settled" and is nothing to worry about. This time around they have not listed the 20 individuals who contributed to this project, but have simply described the group as being:

"...comprised of renowned space scientists with formal educational and decades career involvement in engineering, physics, chemistry, astrophysics, geophysics, geology and meteorology. Many of these scientists have Ph.Ds"

The project seems to be headed by H. Leighton Steward, a 77-year-old former oil and gas executive. The press release also links the NASA group to his website, "co2isgreen", which also has an extensive history of receiving fossil fuel industry funding.

This story can be summed up very simply: a group of retired NASA scientists with no climate science research experience listened to a few climate scientists and a few fossil fuel-funded contrarian scientists, read a few climate blogs, asked a few relatively simple questions, decided that those questions cannot be answered (though we will answer them in this post), put together a very rudimentary report, and now expect people to listen to them because they used to work at NASA. It's purely an appeal to authority, except that the participants have no authority or expertise in climate science."

I would love it if humans weren't causing these problems. And as much as I would love the science to be wrong, I don't believe it is.

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Fair enough. One day we'll know.

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